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Old May 11th, 2015, 08:09 PM
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Hi all, I'm probably sticking my neck out with this dumb question, but I'm trying to get a good idea of the towing capacity for a 110 fitted with a 2.8 TGV and Ashcroft Auto. Oh it has a 1.4 transfer box and upgraded trans cooler and intercooler. I currently use a 1500 Suburban to tow a pop-up camper (around 2800 lbs). Buuuut I would like to lose the Burb since that is its only purpose in life. Thanks and be gentle.
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Hmm. you should contact SafariHP. The install 2.8's and actual refer to on their new site to auto conversions for TDI's.
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Do you already have that drivetrain or looking to install it?
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Old May 11th, 2015, 08:18 PM
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Do you already have that drivetrain or looking to install it?
Already. I'm finishing up the restoration (well my version of a resto anyway) and am trying to find the motivation to get it done. Telling the wife that I can safely tow will be a good start
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That is going to be easy. Have driven a lot with the 2.8 both manual and auto, but that weight means nothing.
Prefer manual though for towing
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Old May 11th, 2015, 09:22 PM
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That is going to be easy. Have driven a lot with the 2.8 both manual and auto, but that weight means nothing. Prefer manual though for towing
Thanks Johan. I would too, but no going back now. I'll likely take it for a spin with the camper around the block to see how it feels. I'd love to get a bigger travel trailer, but I think thats out of the question.
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In Texas? Probably not a problem. I drove a manual 2.8 and it did well on hills here in Portland area, but.... I suspect that towing with it would drag it down quick.

I'm selling our camper trailer because I bought the 110 to camp out of instead of towing.
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What intercooler do you have? And please tell me you have an EGT.
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What intercooler do you have? And please tell me you have an EGT.
EGT indeed...I plan on it. As far as the intercooler, it's just a beefier version of the stock intercooler that came with the M&D Engineering kit. If I scrape up enough change, I'll get a big Alisport...one day. Here is the only pic I have of it on my phone from earlier in the build.

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In Texas? Probably not a problem. I drove a manual 2.8 and it did well on hills here in Portland area, but.... I suspect that towing with it would drag it down quick. I'm selling our camper trailer because I bought the 110 to camp out of instead of towing.
You got the right idea. My wife's idea of camping is essentially a house with wheels. FML. But my hope is to use the 110 for overland trips with a roof tent. The camper would be best for lugging the spawn and dogs around though.
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I have the 2.8 in a Disco. I have the R380 behind it however.

Before with the V8, I would tow the Harley behind it on a checker plate flat bed. 1000 plus maybe and it was labored.

I put the 2.8 in. I was towing the same trailer with 20 bags of quickcrete and literally forgot I had a loaded trailer behind me.

Night and day.
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I have the 2.8 in a Disco. I have the R380 behind it however.

Before with the V8, I would tow the Harley behind it on a checker plate flat bed. 1000 plus maybe and it was labored.

I put the 2.8 in. I was towing the same trailer with 20 bags of quickcrete and literally forgot I had a loaded trailer behind me.

Night and day.
Interesting.....

When I drove Jason Rose's 200Tdi, I went up and down a few local hills on my daily commute and found that it acted a lot like my 3.5 V8, although it didn't seem to be working as hard.

However, I was crap with the LT77, I'm much more used to the spacing on the IIa 4-speed and the LT85 I have. And I didn't exactly put my foot down, it being not my own truck and all. I suppose once I get used to how the Tdi really feels, I'd be able to make it do better.

When I went from the 3.9 to the 4.6.... yeah. That's night and day.
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Interesting..... When I drove Jason Rose's 200Tdi, I went up and down a few local hills on my daily commute and found that it acted a lot like my 3.5 V8, although it didn't seem to be working as hard. However, I was crap with the LT77, I'm much more used to the spacing on the IIa 4-speed and the LT85 I have. And I didn't exactly put my foot down, it being not my own truck and all. I suppose once I get used to how the Tdi really feels, I'd be able to make it do better. When I went from the 3.9 to the 4.6.... yeah. That's night and day.
The 2.8 has considerably more torque than the 200Tdi and the 300.
I don't recall but I think the 2.8 had 275 ft/lb of torque at like 1400 RPM.
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You're still pretty limited by the low tongue weight limit (150 kilos).
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