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Old February 14th, 2010, 01:57 PM
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Tires again....

ok ok ok i know, there is bilion threads about it already, but i just cannot make a decision...

Currently i have Cooper Discoverer S/T (255/70/16). I like them, because in compare to stock tires, they are awesome off road, but i realize that they are mostly made for hard stony tracks and not where i will mostly use them. They are also very noisy on road, but i dont much care about that, since i got used to it.
Overall i must say i like them, since i always got somehow out of any situation but i am aware that it could be improved. Especially self cleaning in mud.

So here is the point: i need tires which are awesome in mud and can have them on daily commuter car. I have much lower ground clearance so have to fix it with better tires. I am limited to what is easy to get in Germany, so that rules many tires out. I believe that tires with big space in threads make for good snow and mud tire and eventually in sand too, that is what i like on mine, that they are good at everything, but probably balanced wrong direction and i can find better one?

So far only one i found and believe is better than those i have is BFG MUD TERRAIN T/A KM2 but i dont know how it is on road or snow. I love they have huge side pattern too. I dont trust tires with too tight pattern because i believe they get dirty sooner. ?

My driving: i drive 90% on road, 10% light mud and stones on steep hills 10-20. I once a year need good sand performance and i want to use it all year long so would love to have good snow performance as well.
I would sacrifice consumption or comfort gladly to get all features.
Thanks!

also, is better to have wide tire or narrow tire?
would i be better of with some 235 tire?
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Old February 14th, 2010, 02:50 PM
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I have BFG MT KM2s on two of my trucks. Both are 265/75/16. I like them a lot. On the street they are definitely louder than the BFG ATs but the noise is definitely tolerable esp with the radio on. They seem to be just as long wearing as the ATs. I think BFGs are always a solid choice. good luck!
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Old February 14th, 2010, 10:40 PM
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I love my mud kings.
Made by BFG.
I actually have a new set of bfg mudders sitting around. They are the same tire but less money. Not super noisy either.
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Old February 15th, 2010, 12:54 AM
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The BFG' tyres are rough and tough. So I think its a good decision taken by you. This would definitely going to increase your outputs.
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Old February 15th, 2010, 01:34 AM
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Dunlop Radial Rover RT, by far the best tires I have owned. Snow, mud, rocks...a great tire for everything I have had a chance to throw at it. Had them for 6-7 years.
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Old February 15th, 2010, 02:31 AM
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Goodyear Wrangler MT/R Kevlar... although I don't think they would have them in Germany. These things have been awesome in any terrain I have taken them in so far...
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Old February 15th, 2010, 01:00 PM
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Those dunlop tires i cannot get here, neither GY Wrangler.
But good to know that MT T/A KM2 are good. anybody got pic with them? Thanks!
I got offer for quite good price to sell my ones so would cost me only about 100Eur to switch...
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Old February 15th, 2010, 01:39 PM
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Those dunlop tires i cannot get here, neither GY Wrangler.
But good to know that MT T/A KM2 are good. anybody got pic with them? Thanks!
I got offer for quite good price to sell my ones so would cost me only about 100Eur to switch...
Is this the same guy you sold your radio to? Haha. I love a bargain! I have michelin XZL's and love them.
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Old February 15th, 2010, 02:45 PM
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nope, he just need it for his dodge van and here in germany it is pain to get such tires. no shop have them in stock and you have to get them over internet, etc. so he goes for availability... Mine have almost 30tkm on them and still look like new... really good tires...

and the guy who got my radio wasnt dumb or anything, the radio was perfect, it plays even CD-Rs and for somebody who need to have original, there is not many better ones. i just needed mp3 over USB because i am crazy. but was in like 5 shops before i found one able to change color to match my dashboard back-light and not looking like some circus control panel.

those Michelin tires look mean, but they have no side profile and no M+S marking? even too simple pattern to be good on ice? Dont know....
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Old February 16th, 2010, 04:40 AM
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Post Km2

I'd say go for the KM2.
Perfect compromise and should fit your needs 100%.
They're also available in your size (at least on BFG.com).

There's no tire for ice unless it comes with spikes.

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Old February 16th, 2010, 09:57 AM
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thanks... i also noticed they winned poll in one 4x4 german magazine as best offroad tires. Should be winner then. Sadly i cannot have a bit bigger ones.
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Old February 16th, 2010, 11:03 AM
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I'm another fan of BFG's
I have the 285/75/16 BFG Mud Terrain T/A KM on both my Defenders.

Here's a picture of the KM (not KM2)
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Old February 16th, 2010, 12:22 PM
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thank you, looking awesome.... 285/75 wow what a size... do you have some lift?
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Old February 16th, 2010, 01:24 PM
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No Pics, but I have KM2s as well and previously had the older generation mud terrains. The KM2s are quieter and handled very well in the recent snow, slush and muck. I still like the look of the older generation mud terrains better, but since these are quieter I'm not complaining.
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Old February 16th, 2010, 02:52 PM
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thank you, looking awesome.... 285/75 wow what a size... do you have some lift?
Rovertym RR1 rear and RR4 front
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Old February 16th, 2010, 03:16 PM
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I presently have the BFG KM in 265 75 16 but since they are getting pretty bald right now I am getting 285 75 16 at the end of next week now that I have a lift on my truck.
I think the KM2s are going to great choice too.
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Old February 16th, 2010, 04:23 PM
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damn looks good. my car look almost like go cart against your one. i have to use wide angle lens to pop the tires up a bit. small german garages :-(. Maybe if i can replace the raised roof with some flat roof i can get bigger tires :-) but dont know if it is an option.

can you please people measure what you have ground clearance from front differential to the ground?
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Old February 16th, 2010, 05:17 PM
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Here's a skinny tire example. These are Interco TrXus 255/85/16s. I'm not sure if that is a size readily available where you are from any of the manufacturers. I like the size, it's about 33 inches tall and not so wide that it will rub on anything at full lock. I've got the Rovertym lift as well.
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