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Old May 15th, 2008, 06:30 PM
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Tire choice for the big trip south

I need some help deciding on tires for our planned drive to South America this September. Although we will be exploring some very remote regions (espicially the deserts of SA) we will still be driving a lot of pavement miles. I need to stay under 32" because of clearance on the extra diesel tank. I would consider 255/85 but it can't happen (although I'm going to re-measure one more time to be sure... anyone else have a excel longange tank under the passenger side rear wing?). Will be buying 6 and running on wolf wheels.



1. So first question is 235/85-16 or 265/75-16- 235's would be readily available save on fuel but sink in the sand. 265 may be a bit wide but flotation would be better. plus they will probably stop better on the road. But I think the type of tire directly related to the size...



2. Either:

a) Bgf muds (centerlugs siped)

b) Bfg A/T's

c) Cooper STT's

Biggest concerns:
Tough side walls, staying balanced, long tread wear, decent road mannors wet/dry/little snow(safe)


Others I have considered are:

Toyo’s (MT & M55)- great tire… too pricy

Cooper S/T-C- currently have a set… too many flats, wont stay balanced

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Old May 15th, 2008, 06:58 PM
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what terrain will you be on? A lot of mud? Or rocks or all of the above. BFG MT.
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Old May 15th, 2008, 07:11 PM
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The sidewalls on the BFG are not that tough or I'd say BFG MT all the way.
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Old May 15th, 2008, 07:20 PM
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Well based on the above. What about the Dunlop Radial Rover RT
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Old May 15th, 2008, 07:37 PM
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what terrain will you be on? A lot of mud? Or rocks or all of the above. BFG MT.




All of the above... If md was out I would go with the bfg at's for economy... but I hear they are crap in the mud. (?)



I had looked at the Dunlop RT but I have not seen that much first hand experience... Do they have a 3 ply side wall construction?



I was under the impression that the bfg sidewalls were great...no?



Des anyone have any first hand experience with mileage and wear on the cooper stt?
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Old May 15th, 2008, 07:46 PM
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I just tore a hole in the sidewall of one of my near new 235/85/R16 BFG ATs with low miles (aired down to about 18psi). Have done the same on my old 285/75R16 BFG MTs.
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BFG At's are garbage in the mud. I think a lot of good things to say about the RT, I was impressed by thier performance in the mud, did as good as my MT's. I think they are an E load range so I imagine they are pretty tough, they are availible in a 265 and the 235. Do a search on the STT its been talked about.
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Old May 15th, 2008, 07:48 PM
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I just tore a hole in the sidewall of one of my near new 235/85/R16 BFG ATs with low miles (aired down to about 18psi). Have done the same on my old 285/75R16 BFG MTs.
What kind of wheeling were you doing?
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If your going to be on road a lot you might want to consider GY MTR's. They seem to have strong sidewalls (I've never had any problems with them). But if your going to be in a lot of mud I would go with something else. They are better then BFG AT's in mud but they don't clean out like BFG MT's...

I really like BFG AT's but they don't do that well in mud and the sidewalls did seem to cut easily when I had them, and they are the only tire I've run that poped off the bead. Other then that they were really good tires, and the bead problems I had were with 265/75's on 7" rims aired down to about 15-20 psi...
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What kind of wheeling were you doing?
Off road? Me and 5 females in the 110, out in the woods. LOL

I would call it casual off roading. ....

Ok, although there is no lie above, maybe not fair to call it casual. it was fun though.
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BFG MT KM2

Gawd I like this tire!
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Re: KM2

When are they coming out with more sizes?
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I had great experience with the Dunlop Radial Rover's on a RR Classic. They were awesome on the highway, and did great off road.
Never had the opportunity to try them in sand (we don't have much of that in here in Tennessee).

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I had great experience with the Dunlop Radial Rover's on a RR Classic. They were awesome on the highway, and did great off road.
Never had the opportunity to try them in sand (we don't have much of that in here in Tennessee).

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Good info... how many miles did you get out of them?

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Michelin XPS Tractions. Extremely tuff tire.

Research Expedition Tires. Not Off Roading tires. Big Difference.

www.expeditionportal.com

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Re: KM2

When are they coming out with more sizes?
I wish I could say. I have heard rumor that a 285/75-16 (same size as my pre-production versions) will be available in the fall.

They are quiet and pretty sticky, no too bad in snow either. Not tried them in mud yet nor have I had a chance to test the sidewalls much.
If you could live with a 35" (currently available) tire I'd say they're the way to go.
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Michelin XPS Tractions. Extremely tuff tire.

Research Expedition Tires. Not Off Roading tires. Big Difference.

www.expeditionportal.com

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I'll take a look at the XPS.
I have read a lot on Expo but not enough
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anyone else have experience with the Dunlop r/t?
Especially contrasted against bfg MUDs or cooper stt...
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I wish I could say. I have heard rumor that a 285/75-16 (same size as my pre-production versions) will be available in the fall.

They are quiet and pretty sticky, no too bad in snow either. Not tried them in mud yet nor have I had a chance to test the sidewalls much.
If you could live with a 35" (currently available) tire I'd say they're the way to go.
Yeah, I've heard people say that BFG states September is when the more sizes will come out.. But they will all be generally bigger sized tires, not too many 16" ones.. not sure if there will be a 265/75/16

If you're doing mostly on-road & sand/desert driving, I'd say go with the BFG AT's, 265/75/16 ... You dont want an MT in sand since it'll dig, and there is no bottom to the sand... you want to be able to float on top of the sand. MTs are good in mud since there is generally hard surface under the mud if you dig deep enough, so thats what the treads do. The BFG AT's I had a few years ago -- Stayed balanced without an issue, great on sand/snow/wet surface/dry pavement, were not too loud, and I think they ended up with about 60k miles on them before they were retired.
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Thumbs up Dunlop Radial Rover RT

Steve,

I have Dunlop 7.5 16s (~32") on my 88, soon to be moved to my new-to-me 110. They are fantastic tires, snow, muck, rocks...on the highway, you name it. They are the best tires I have had on a 4WD rig. That being said, I've never had either of the other two that you are considering (BFG Muds or Cooper STT). I have had my RTs for about 5 years, with zero problems (sidewall, punctures, funny wear patterns...) . If available in a few years, I'll absolutly buy them again.

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