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Old May 11th, 2011, 11:41 PM
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Tire Advice for ANR 4636 rims

I have a set of ANR 4636 Series/1-ton rims that I am planning to put some mud terrains on. The spec on the steel rims says: 5.5F x 16 x 33. My current tires are a set of BFG AT T/A KO in size LT265/75/R16 on Toronado alloys.

I am trying to figure out if I can go up in tire size on these new rims without rubbing or having to put in spacers and I also want to make sure I have enough room for articulation on the trail without rubbing on the fenders. Not sure if it matters but I have HD OME in front and MD OME in rear which is supposed to give a little bit lift over stock.

I really like the tire choice and size on #410 here: http://www.eastcoastrover.com/149.html

Are those BFG MT's? What size are they?
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Old May 12th, 2011, 12:36 AM
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Km1 in what looks like 235 85 16 but I could be wrong. The 235s will fit your truck but I think the 265s are too big for the 5.5 rims. The nas 110 had 6.5 wheels
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Ah, man. So these are the narrower of the steelies then? Are my Toronado rims 6.5" wide?

KM1 or KM2, is there a preference between the two?
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Old May 12th, 2011, 01:09 AM
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Your wheels are 7 actually. Km1s look better but on road are loud and wear badly. Good news is that you can't buy km1s anymore. Km2 or nothing. I have had two sets of km2s and they are actually really nice.
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I have a set of ANR 4636 Series/1-ton rims that I am planning to put some mud terrains on. The spec on the steel rims says: 5.5F x 16 x 33. ?


1 ton/130/NAS110 were all 6.5" (same as the military "wolf" HD vented rim)

most alloys (LR factory ones for defender/disco1) were 7"


If yours says 5.5" then it's a "standard" 90/110 plain steel. you can squeeze a 235 onto them, but I wouldn't go any wider.
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Yup, the ANR4636 is a late 109 wheel. 1 5/16" offset.
The tire manufacturer web site will tell you the minimum rim widths for their tires. I try not to go narrower by more than 1/2".
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If I were you, I would look hard at 255/85 KM2. Does anyone have experience with this combination of wheel and tire?
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Thanks for the education. Is there a performance downside to going to a narrower rim/tire? Less traction? Should I be looking for the 6.5" steel wheels instead?
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Think of a contact patch on the ground. The larger the contact patch, the more traction you will have. A taller tire will allow for a longer contact patch. A wider tire will obviously provide a wider contact patch. It's a delicate balance between traction and going too wide where the truck ends up looking like a jeep (that's what I think, at least).
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Think of a contact patch on the ground. The larger the contact patch, the more traction you will have.
Only if you ignore the coefficient of friction of the surface and the weight being applied.
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Thanks for the education. Is there a performance downside to going to a narrower rim/tire? Less traction? Should I be looking for the 6.5" steel wheels instead?

If you want, a set of the 6.5 wheels, I've got them for sale. I think I have 1 set left now.

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Thanks for the offer. What shape are they in? Dents? I picked up my set of 5.5's for $150 and they are pristine now that the paint and rust was chemically removed. No shipping since it was a local purchase. Hard to beat that price. I'm trying to figure out if it's worth it to shell out several hundreds more just to get a wider rim. That's why I was asking for opinions around rim/tire width.
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ANR4636 is a tube type, right? Might be worth a few bucks to get a set of wider tubeless rims.
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Don't know. How can I tell? Are the 6.5's tubeless?

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ANR4636 is a tube type, right?
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Are the 6.5's tubeless?
Depends upon the rim. Some 6.5's are tube type and some are tubeless, e.g. ANR5593PM & ANR4583PM.
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Some people claim to run tubeless tires on ANR4636 rims (without tubes) with no issues. Personally I've never tried it.
I like 7.50Rx16 tires on Land Rovers and they will fit the ANR4636 fine. Assuming you can find any, they are fairly scarce in the US.
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I'm running 7.5 16 Dunlop Radial Rover RTs. Love em, but can't find them anymore.
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I believe John Lee from EE has michelins in xzl 8.25 r16 without tubes on those wheels
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I've had 235/85 BFG AT tires on those rims with no tubes and no issues for the past 6 years/40,000 miles. They're about worn out and am looking at the Cooper Discoverer 255/85. Actually, now that I think about it, my other truck also has the tire/wheel setup with no issues.
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