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Old April 25th, 2013, 08:36 AM
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tie rod end - when to replace - signs of wear

This is a dumb question: how can I tell when the tie rod ends are worn and in need of replacement?

The shop I went to failed my 90's inspection due to worn tie rod ends (among other things). When disconnected from the wheel knuckle, they appeared to still be tight, no slop. I dont drive the truck daily, so there are not a lot of miles on them since I last replaced them.

How do I tell whether they are worn and need replacing? Is the process documented in a manual that I can show the shop?
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Old April 25th, 2013, 08:44 AM
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Jack it up and have someone turn the steering wheel back and forth, then grab the tire and on ea side pull/push....you should have no play or movement in the tie rods
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Old April 25th, 2013, 09:20 AM
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Ask the shop why they think they're bad. Did they just do a visual inspection or did they get more hands on? Are the boots torn at all?
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Old April 25th, 2013, 11:30 AM
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With the guy that did the other work, had it up on a lift. No play from what we could tell when trying to turn the tire back and forth. Given this, and that they were tight whe we pulled them, I figured I'd go back to the inspection people and try to get more of the skinny. Different state, cant get me the sticker.

The guy in the inspecting shop used a prybar to do something and decided they were bad. He was not there when I stopped by to ask further questions (I think he is on vacation). The shop super said they use manufacturer guidelines, but if I can show them some instruction for this year vehicle, I may be able to get by. I just need to find something.

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Old April 25th, 2013, 11:37 AM
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Seeing as a tie road end is $10 to $15 and is easy to change, I'm not sure why not just change it.
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Old April 25th, 2013, 11:44 AM
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A worn tie rod torn boot or not is pretty obvious. the indicator is too much play (typically) it's really obvious on a lift. Grasp the tie rod and twist flex it and you'll know cause your gut will tell you, that's not quite right. If its bad. In the end take it to a different shop and get a 2nd opinion.

Don't know why you'd use a pry rod to test a worn tie rod...unless you were trying to pop it off. Strange...
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You put the pry bar on for vertical play.
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Old April 25th, 2013, 11:50 AM
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You put the pry bar on for vertical play.
Ah- I just apply downward pressure of a sort, same in principle a reckon. I imagine a tech using a pry bar torqueing the crap out of it...but I have an over active imagination anyhow...
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I just grab it and listen for a click or feel for play, only thing I use a pry bar on are bushing and the rear a arm ball joint.
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Seeing as a tie road end is $10 to $15 and is easy to change, I'm not sure why not just change it.
True. For me though it would be a matter of principle and I'd want to know what exactly they found to fail them, esp if I thought they were good. But I'm weird like that. I don't like people telling me something "just because", I want to know the "why".
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