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Old November 15th, 2013, 01:24 PM
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Probably a dumb question. But please help explain what I'm missing here. Trying to install a tickford for the 1st time. On the front lip, how does it connect to the insert? On my surrey, there is a plastic strip sewn onto the end that fits in. Don't have that on this tickford. Looks like there was a slit for a piece to slide into?
Also, with the snap on the outside of the front window, how would that work to fit this in and then snap without folding it over on the corner?


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Old November 15th, 2013, 01:37 PM
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Yes you should have a steel bar that does in the slot in the front of the top , and then you insert the bar into the header bar
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Yes you should have a steel bar that does in the slot in the front of the top , and then you insert the bar into the header bar
Well I don't have the steel bar...is this easy to find? Could you give me the dimensions? Thanks!
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I'll get you the dimensions in an hour or so. It shouldn't be too hard to reproduce.
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I'll get you the dimensions in an hour or so. It shouldn't be too hard to reproduce.
That would be great, I assume it resembles a flexible metal dowel rod?
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Well I don't have the steel bar...is this easy to find? Could you give me the dimensions? Thanks!
If you already have a surrey I would assume it's basically the same as the one in there if you're looking for dimensions...
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It's just a flat bar and yes probably very much like the surrey. You can also just look at the header bar and see what the thickest material with 2 layers of tick ford cloth would fit, and the length is as long as you can go between the bends. Then I don't have to go and undo mine
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My surrey has a plastic strip, no bar. If you could get the diameter of the bar that would be most helpful and save some trial and error time at Lowe's.


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I just went out and it's way too much work to get the front out since the front goes in first and I'd have to undo almost all the snaps to do so. It's about 1/8" thick, probably 1/12" to 3/4" wide. literally anything that fits in the slot and then fits into the header bar slot will do
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Any advice on stretching? I need 1/2 inch to button rear down. My garage is hot as shit with the heater on all day.
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The only real fix is to add a 1/2" to the bottom of the rear I'm afraid. If you pull too hard you'll just break something.

Did you get the front sorted out?
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Yep front is done. Lowe's had perfect metal bar tight on the size you suggested. Thanks for the help by the way. Gonna let it sit out in sun tomorrow see if I can get it to stretch.
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Just make sure the front bar isn't pushing it too far forward and causing a bigger gap in the rear. It's a long shot but figured I'd mention it.

A drive at speed while it's warm out might stretch it out a bit too.
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This has happened to my fathers truck. Only thing you can do is make sure you have the canvas tighten as you work your way back. Dont do any of the snaps or velcro along the side and then you should be able to get the snaps to meet. Make sure you work the material as you go from front to back. We are on our second or third top now. Since each one was made to each truck there are some differences as the snaps not lining up in the back. Pops found this out and he just made some simple extensions with some webbing material and snaps he bought at the hardware store.
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Well after 6 hours of sitting in a heated garage at 88 degrees, it's on. All the snaps except the 3 across the rear door. Not sure if I want those closed anyway. Top will never see the rain and the zippers close up nicely. Top fits skin tight, hopefully it will stretch out some more overnight. Will post pics tomorrow, the top is in new condition and I picked it up thanks to a great board member. Very pleased.
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Bravo indeed. For future reference, I have also had success with my bestop (equally tight) by cranking up the car heat while the top is on, but not fastened. Seems to loosen it up nicely for the final stage.
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I tell ya what, I don't think this tickford is going to come off as long as I own the Defender, not going through that again, at least unless I order/receive a Badger...one day, or trade for a Arles SW.
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I had the unfortunate pleasure of installing a Bestop on a D90 today. I feel sorry for the new owner when they remove it and try to reinstall it. After that, I would never want to buy a soft top D90 that didn't already have the top installed.
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I had the unfortunate pleasure of installing a Bestop on a D90 today. I feel sorry for the new owner when they remove it and try to reinstall it. After that, I would never want to buy a soft top D90 that didn't already have the top installed.
I was about to ask you to come help me, my top will never be off again.
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