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Old November 26th, 2012, 11:17 AM
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Thoughts on 235 85 r16 tires

For my next set I'm thinking of switching to that size. I like the thinner "classic" LR tire look and this seems to be the cheapest / most available size that's close.

But I'm curious: how do they handle, wear, etc? Are there any brands that work particularly well? Also, are there any other sizes that I should consider?
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Old November 26th, 2012, 11:28 AM
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I have ran the 235/85 BFG AT's with good success, good on road, in the snow and off road.
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Old November 26th, 2012, 11:32 AM
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DuraTracs, MT Kevlars, and a host of others are available in this size.
All mud tires wear out fast. If you do lots of street driving maybe a tire like the DuraTrac is better as they have a harder compound and a decent aggressive tread. Cheapest price on these at 4WD.com. Use the online coupon for an extra 5% off, and shipping is like 25 bx for 5.
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Old November 26th, 2012, 11:34 AM
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Fairly popular. I'm running the Duratracs in that size. They are quiet, have been wearing well, and perform good offroad.

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Old November 26th, 2012, 01:25 PM
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I'm running 7.50x16 on my disco and I love them. slightly skinnier than the 235s but they handle the weight well and have zero drag. a great fit.
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Old November 26th, 2012, 02:32 PM
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7.5 x 16 would be my preference but they seem to be pretty rare. I can't find any tread patterns that I'm happy with in that size.

Right now I'm running the Goodyear Wrangler A/Ts and are looking for a comparable tread (or maybe slightly more agressive).
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Old November 26th, 2012, 02:49 PM
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I was looking at 235/85/16's to replace my 245/75/16's BFG MT's on my disco. In looking around I've decided to run 255/85/16's as they are only a little more expensive than the 235's in the same tire but give you almost another inch and a half of overall height and about 3/4 of an inch more footprint. I know on my disco i'm going to have to trim the fenders a bit to clear when they are stuffed but overall should be a good fit. On a defender i don't *think* you'd have clearance issues. The only downside to running this size is the small selection of tires available. In my research into availability of tires in this size i've found the following:

Maxxis MT-762 Bighorn
Toyo Open Country M/T
BFG MT KM2
Cooper Discoverer S/T
Eldorado/Laramie Trailcutter R/T
Toyo M-55 <- more of an AT tire, but soft rubber and REALLY expensive.

I've settled on the Toyo Open Country M/T's, just have to feed the piggy bank a bit before pulling the trigger. The extra inch and half under my diffs vs what i'm running now will really help out a bit later at the end of next summer when we run the Dusy-Ershim trail..
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Old November 26th, 2012, 03:57 PM
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I ran 7.50 x 16 XZLs on my D1 and love the looks from an aesthetics standpoint. They also wear great, even from lots of highway driving when I was in the west coast. Great on mud and slick rocks and very strong sidewalls. I think they have the strongest sidewalls i know of.

As far as cons

- loud
- pricey
- suck on rain and snow. (i heard others get them siped(?) and it improved a lot in the wet stuff)
- kinda hard to find

I have a couple that have wear on them and great as off-road spares, you're welcome to have them for a six pack.
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Old November 27th, 2012, 01:22 AM
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I can't find the 7.5 x 16 XLZs new anywhere. They seem like a great tire. I'm currently leaning towards the Big O Big Foot A/T tire: http://www.bigotires.com/Tire-Detail...-TERRAIN/12665.

Decent price, available in 235/85/r16 (though I think now I'd prefer 255/85/r16), and it comes with a 3 year road-hazard warranty (have definitely used this in the past).
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Old November 27th, 2012, 02:05 AM
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Had 7.5-16 on my D1 with Cooper STT and loved the combination.
Last tire on the d1 was 255/85-16 and these tires will see use on my D90.
If stock suspension 235/85 looks right on d90.
If lifted 255/85 looks great on D90.
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I drive on rocky dirt roads ... a lot. I use and have used BFG AT/KO's 235/85/16" (3rd set). These are "E" rated tires, 10 ply. They consistently deliver over 40,000 miles. I run them at 38PSI and they can go as high as 85psi (I think).
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I think RN sells brand new XZLs in 7.25 x 16 but very $$$. I agree, the 7.25 looks best on a D1 or non-lifted Defender... for a lifted Defender, 255/85 or 8.25x16 looks more "proper"... although that is obviously subjective and YMMV....

There's a guy on eBay in NY that is selling XZLs in 8.25x16 (very hard to find)... he has 6 of them mounted on wolf rims with a buy it now price of $1,800. Mind you, these are used tires that he claims he used them for a morocco expedition.

The biggest draw back of the XZLs in my opinion is the noise, and this was in my D1... I can't even imagine the noise on a Defender, especially with a diesel... LOL
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I have ran the 235/85 BFG AT's with good success, good on road, in the snow and off road.

This is what I am running. I am very happy with the snow performance, tread life, etc...

I had them on ROW stellies and the looked good on the truck. When I switched to Boost I was happier with the look.
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I actually think 235/85/16 is the best size for a Defender, I find the 255 size too large.

I ran 235 General Grabber TR tires for ten years on my 110 and found them absolutely outstanding. Really long lasting, quiet even on the highway, good in snow and rain. They are the standard tire fitted to Defenders from the factory and I can see why. Now I am trying Cooper Discoverer STTs in the same size. They look great, but they are certainly noisier on road than the Grabbers, being a more off road biased tread.
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Old November 27th, 2012, 04:19 PM
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Continuing on this, what are your guys thoughts on load E tires versus C for offroad?
This interests me, as the majority of 235/85/16 tires seem to be E rated (10 ply?)
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I think RN sells brand new XZLs in 7.25 x 16 but very $$$. I agree, the 7.25 looks best on a D1 or non-lifted Defender... for a lifted Defender, 255/85 or 8.25x16 looks more "proper"... although that is obviously subjective and YMMV....

There's a guy on eBay in NY that is selling XZLs in 8.25x16 (very hard to find)... he has 6 of them mounted on wolf rims with a buy it now price of $1,800. Mind you, these are used tires that he claims he used them for a morocco expedition.

The biggest draw back of the XZLs in my opinion is the noise, and this was in my D1... I can't even imagine the noise on a Defender, especially with a diesel... LOL
I'm running 7.50 XCLs on my disco. I have 7.50 XZLs I may put on soon to try out. the XCLs sound like a hornets nest, and damn they are old, but I cruise nice on them. I think the XZLs will be less noisy than the XCL. The tread pattern is closer and looks more flat for the road. I was going to import some new Michelin Latitude 7.50s that come on the new Defenders in the UK. I like the look a lot for a non aggressive tire.

RN sells them for new but are stupid expensive.

My friend Scott is selling the 8.25s in NY. I used to work with him. He is a great guy and those tires are really rare in that size. They fit a 2" lifted truck nicely. I was going to go check them out one of these weekends.
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I actually think 235/85/16 is the best size for a Defender, I find the 255 size too large.

I ran 235 General Grabber TR tires for ten years on my 110 and found them absolutely outstanding. Really long lasting, quiet even on the highway, good in snow and rain. They are the standard tire fitted to Defenders from the factory and I can see why. Now I am trying Cooper Discoverer STTs in the same size. They look great, but they are certainly noisier on road than the Grabbers, being a more off road biased tread.
I agree. BFG AT 235's on my 110 look but 255's on my 90 for more clearance.
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Also running BFG AT 235's on my 110. Love them. Great in snow and on Colorado's rocky mountain trails. Couldn't be happier.
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255's are perfect for the OME 751/764's increased turning radius over the stock 265's. 235s are a no brainer on a stock truck.
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