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Old December 17th, 2012, 10:46 AM
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Terrafirma vs. Old Man Emu

Hey gang,

All right, it's finally time to replace my original (and now 20 year old) stock springs and shocks. Now that I'm in California I think at least a 2" lift is also in order. I'm interested in what people's experience has been with the Terrafirma +2 kit vs. the OME Heavy Duty kit. What would you recommend?

As many of you know I have a NAS 90. It's only used off road these days, so road manners aren't as important. I will be adding a Warn 9.5xti in the new year, so there will be some extra weight up front. I also have a tire/fuel carrier on the back.

Thanks in advance for your insight!
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Old December 17th, 2012, 10:59 AM
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what kind of suspension do you want ? Lots of droop and super soft (which usually equates to lots of sway on the road) or just ground clearance and decent road manners ? will you be removing your swaybars ?
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Old December 17th, 2012, 01:46 PM
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I don't need super articulation, lifting the body back up is important, I'm sagging almost an inch under stock in the back. I'm usually pretty waited down on the trail so the extra load capacity of the heave springs might be nice. As for the sway bars, I will disconnect them depending on the trail but wouldn't leave them off all together.
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Old December 17th, 2012, 02:04 PM
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Stephen, I've got the OME HD 2+ kit on my disco and it's been great. With the truck fully laden this weekend with camping gear i was sitting a little lower than normal in the rear. I think Baldewin has the kit with the uprated OME nitrocharger sport dampers on his truck. Not sure what springs.

I pulled the rear bar on my disco after going back and forth on debating on making disconnects. Even with the truck loaded down i've not noticed any negative response in the handling. My swaybar hangers kept getting kicked up by rocks on the trail and i had to jack the rear of the truck up to get them to drop down after wheeling. If i had softer springs in the rear it might make bit of difference but with the higher rate HD springs I think it negates any ill effects of removing the rear sway bar.
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Old December 19th, 2012, 09:26 AM
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I have OME set ups in both trucks, D2 and D90 and so far so good, but I can't compare with Terrafirma, never tried them.

OME is a sure value, easy to install and seems to have a quality manufacturing process.
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Old December 19th, 2012, 09:51 AM
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Isn't all the TF stuff made in China?
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Old December 19th, 2012, 10:15 AM
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The TF stuff has been on the market for much less time but so far it is holding up as good as the OME stuff. I don't know how it will be 5 years down the road since it is a rather new product.
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I ran OME in the RRC and it was alright, I don't think I had enough weight to load the 3" springs up properly. As a whole they did fine but they were not my first choice on the Hunter.

I spent a day riding in Justin's Lucky8 P38. It has Terra Firma shocks and springs. I was very impressed with the quality of the ride, and the amount of abuse the shocks could handle. Over rough sections of trail at what I would consider high speeds 30-35mph for a trail the shocks did amazingly well at keeping the P38 planted and heading in the right direction. Justin really worked those shocks hard, all day and they kept taking it with no issues. I was amazed that there wasn't a blown or snapped shock at the end of the day.

I know that isn't a Defender but that was my experience. When it comes time for shocks I'll be going with TerraFirma based on that day of trails at Rousch Creek.
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I've had OME HD coils and shocks on my 99D1 since 2002. 90k miles, 4 cross-country trips (including the '03 border to border trip, 3 MARs (early years), 2 Moab trips, several new england off roading events later, and not to mention being daily driven... one of the rear shocks succumbed to the infamous OME stub breaking off last month. Due to cost, I replaced all the shocks with TF HD and also to see how they would compare. So far, about a month of just regular daily driving, nothing exciting to report yet. They seem the same so far.
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Old December 19th, 2012, 10:46 AM
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Isn't all the TF stuff made in China?
That is what I gathered. I went with the 2" OME setup for my 110 and have been very happy with it. Honestly one main reason I went with OME was that it was not made in China.
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OME is made by Monroe, ARB has many products made in China.
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Old December 19th, 2012, 11:01 AM
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My 110's on OME HD+2". Nice ride but, a bit firm when not fully ladden.. I should say the ride is not too good when there's no load. I guess it's always a compromise between strengh and confort.
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OME is made by Monroe, ARB has many products made in China.
Yeh well, the shiz doesn't come with country of origin info up front. You have to wait until you get the box to find out where it comes from. Maybe if customers knew where the products were made before they plunked down their hard earned money there would be a big difference in whether they buy TF or OME or whatever...
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RTE springs are made in American
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This is all great info, here's one more thing to think about... I won an ARB prize at a rally this summer, that gives me 25% of a suspemsion

------ Follow up post added December 19th, 2012 05:14 PM ------

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Anyway it gives me 25% off the OME kit making it the same price as the TF. Taking price out of the conversation would you still opt for the TF setup over the OME?
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Maybe call RTE a call and make them a reasonable offer taking into consideration you'll be buying American and customer service should anything fail. If they can't beat the price hopefully they can explain why theirs is more expensive

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Yeh well, the shiz doesn't come with country of origin info up front. You have to wait until you get the box to find out where it comes from. Maybe if customers knew where the products were made before they plunked down their hard earned money there would be a big difference in whether they buy TF or OME or whatever...
Agreed, that is why we have country of origin available to anyone that inquires. It is important for people to know where their products are coming from. Personally I don't really use country of origin as a buying point for my personal vehicles, I've seen bad products produced all over the globe.
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Agreed, that is why we have country of origin available to anyone that inquires. It is important for people to know where their products are coming from. Personally I don't really use country of origin as a buying point for my personal vehicles, I've seen bad products produced all over the globe.
I figured you would recommend the Bilstiens.
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I figured you would recommend the Bilstiens.
Bilsteins are very nice shocks, however they do not have a +2" option so they were out of the picture.
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RTE 2" or OME 751/764 Bisltein or OME or FOX shocks, we buy enough chinese shit as it is
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