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Old December 4th, 2006, 01:45 PM
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It will be a simple thing, like a can, one hose in, one hose
out. I'm doing it with second hand but good quality material,
all stainless steel. Still have to drill holes, place a draining
tap, etc... In pipe will be longer than exit pipe, still have to work
out some details, any idea is welcome.
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Old December 4th, 2006, 03:52 PM
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So I have noticed a little more smoke lately. White on startup untill she warms up a bit. That dosn;t worry me but when driving at night the headlights behind me illuminate smoke under load on the freeway... looks light in color but I can't tell.

Also I have noticed a slight blue color to the smoke sometimes ( ) My compression is even, and I don't seem to be burning oil. Timing belt is new, and intercooler is clean.

What should I do? I havn't adjusted the valves in a while so I'll probably do that next.

How much smoke is "norma"l for a tdi?
When adjusting the injector pump do you guys have any hints on how to get it right?

thanks in advance
Good link: http://www.freeautoadvice.com/diesel/smoke.html
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Old December 5th, 2006, 12:00 PM
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Forgot to say that i'm planning to bolt it near
manifold, couldn't find a better place yet.
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Old December 5th, 2006, 12:19 PM
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Turn up the boost to help the engine burn the fuel. This is often forgot when trying to tune the engine correctly. Often 300 tdis are only pushing 13-14 boost. 16 is the factory setting. Be sure to start thier before turning down the pump. And cleaning the intercooler should be a regular maintenance.

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Old December 5th, 2006, 12:54 PM
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Turn up the boost to help the engine burn the fuel. This is often forgot when trying to tune the engine correctly. Often 300 tdis are only pushing 13-14 boost. 16 is the factory setting. Be sure to start thier before turning down the pump. And cleaning the intercooler should be a regular maintenance.

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How do you turn on more boost?
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And more boost means less fumes ?
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More boost can mean less fumes ( the pump will put some extra fuel in because the boost is higher). Higher pressure means more heat = lower density of air going in. therefor you really need an intercooler with a bigger surface cooling area to increase the density of the charge going in. More O2 = a more complete burn and less smoke and more power
at this point most people turn up the fuel more and get more power and smoke (a bit) and if my experience is anything to go by a better fuel economy
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More boost can mean less fumes ( the pump will put some extra fuel in because the boost is higher).

So.... Is that a electronic switch somewhere? A mechanical switch? Just a matter of pushing the pump a little further? I would love to give that trick to my dad so that he stop complaining about his 300Tdi smoking from time to time.
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I believe Pendy was refering to getting the boost back to stock, meaning that many tdi through age or whatever are not running the factory setting of 16 lbs. If you want to trun it up more then yes a bigger intercooler is needed.
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I believe Pendy was refering to getting the boost back to stock, meaning that many tdi through age or whatever are not running the factory setting of 16 lbs. If you want to trun it up more then yes a bigger intercooler is needed.
I see so, it means that the fuel (well...diesel) pump has to put out those 16 lbs, then! :-) Now that makes sense, I was under the impression that there was something else I needed to learn about.
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I see so, it means that the fuel (well...diesel) pump has to put out those 16 lbs, then! :-) Now that makes sense, I was under the impression that there was something else I needed to learn about.
16 lbs boost from the turbocharger that supplies air to the combustion chamber under pressure instead of vacuum. The mechanical wasgate linkeage can be adjusted to give more or less boost. The factory upper limit is 16 lbs. This is all seperate from the injection pump (diesel pump) which is another factor.

And Bucky my smoke screen is very delibrate, as you know.


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One idea,

If you are really desperate to get rid of all smoke and not willing to suffer a loss of power, inject propane. More power, slightly better gas mileage, no unburned fuel.

Personally, I am trying to find ways to increase my diesel smoke. In honor of Pendy.


edit: You really don't know what smoke is until you drive a 2.5 N.A. military Rover Diesel. I could make a smoke screen that would make James Bond jealous.
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You really don't know what smoke is until you drive a 2.5 N.A. military Rover Diesel. I could make a smoke screen that would make James Bond jealous.
I second that! But it does not need to be the military version.....
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I second that! But it does not need to be the military version.....
Really? This whole time I just assumed it was some kind of military camoflage, or counter-detection device. I mean, why else would mankind invent and produce a motor that produced 67 H.P. and 17 vertical feet of black smoke!?
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Really? This whole time I just assumed it was some kind of military camoflage, or counter-detection device. I mean, why else would mankind invent and produce a motor that produced 67 H.P. and 17 vertical feet of black smoke!?
Because then, with a short 1st gear, you can take on the sports car at the traffic light. As long as you start on the right-hand side lane and get ahead of them for the first 10 m, you can smoke them so bad that they'll give up. C'm'on is that simple!
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You shorten the rod to the waste gate+ more boost, there is a thread with the pump tuning instructions in it from a couple of years ago...
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You shorten the rod to the waste gate+ more boost, there is a thread with the pump tuning instructions in it from a couple of years ago...
Took a bit of searching, but.... here is the thread:
http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...5&postcount=35
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