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Old January 7th, 2013, 12:31 PM
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Tdi Gear Reduction/Hi-Torque Starters???

There still doesn't seem to be anyone selling/making gear reduction/hi-torque starters for the Tdi. Has anyone come across anything that crosses over or fits???
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Old January 7th, 2013, 12:37 PM
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I have just this last week been talking to Dave at britishstarters dot com about this very thing.

I am about to send him a 200tdi starter so he can fab up what he needs to get them in production.

One Q, is the 300 tdi unit the same?

He should be joining the vendors thread soon
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Old January 7th, 2013, 12:40 PM
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Try: www.britishstarters.com if they don't have it, they may make one. They claim to be looking for new applications for their denso-based starters.

edit: John beat me to it.
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With the plethora of LR Tdis in the UK, why on earth have they not made them already? Seems like an untapped market over there and they could get one from a breaker dirt cheap.
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Because they are in NY.
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Because they are in NY.
I was talking in the general "they" sense, not British Starters specificly. Sorry.


But back to my point, seems odd no one is doing this for the tdi, even in the US.
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Old January 7th, 2013, 12:59 PM
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Agreed. The real question is, does anyone have any experience with them?
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I'm lost as why you would need a higher torque starter on a 300 TDI? My 2.8 uses a 300 TDI starter and that thing cranks so fast it starts like a gasser.
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I'm lost as why you would need a higher torque starter on a 300 TDI? My 2.8 uses a 300 TDI starter and that thing cranks so fast it starts like a gasser.
Purely to be overkill, especially during really cold mornings. My starter turns the motor just fine, but it can always be better.
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The stock starter works fine at any temperature.
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The stock starter works fine at any temperature.
No kidding, so do most starters, yet most applications have a hi-torque or gear-reduced variant. I'm looking for one to compensate for cold battery / reduced voltage situations. You know as well as I do that the Tdi requires full battery voltage and faster RPMs to start.

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I have just this last week been talking to Dave at britishstarters dot com about this very thing.

I am about to send him a 200tdi starter so he can fab up what he needs to get them in production.

One Q, is the 300 tdi unit the same?

He should be joining the vendors thread soon
Keep me posted. I'd be in for one.
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You know as well as I do that the Tdi requires full battery voltage and faster RPMs to start.
Not mine. Old, half dead batteries, -20, fire up on first crank.
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No kidding, so do most starters, yet most applications have a hi-torque or gear-reduced variant. I'm looking for one to compensate for cold battery / reduced voltage situations. You know as well as I do that the Tdi requires full battery voltage and faster RPMs to start.

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Keep me posted. I'd be in for one.
I'd be looking at my starter connections first if it's slow to start. Don't you have dual batteries? Your block ground to frame, the main connection to the solenoid, and the starter to battery would be suspect in my mind. dirt/corrosion can have a big impact.
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I'd be looking at my starter connections first if it's slow to start. Don't you have dual batteries? Your block ground to frame, the main connection to the solenoid, and the starter to battery would be suspect in my mind. dirt/corrosion can have a big impact.
No, I'm good. I just want a fancy starter.
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You mean like a reducer gear so it spins faster?
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Probably just wear the ring gear out faster. Like those fawkin mean green things do in a Series rig....and don't tell me that doesn't happen. Totally unnecessary waste of money , but as with most things Rover....that shouldn't stop you.
IMO the 200/300 starter is the fine. I've run them for years in all temps and rarely need to use both batteries. The DD RRC w 300tdi hasn't even had the second battery for years and never fails to start instantly. In Maine. No block heater.
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