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Old December 29th, 2012, 09:56 PM
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Synthetic winch line - 100' vs 125'

Having trouble finding 3/8" in 125' from MasterPull/Amsteel Blue (their website now only rolls to their eBay store...not sure what is going on).

Anyhow I found the 3/8" in 100', but can't find any longer (was hoping for at least 125'). Any input on if this is really that big of a deal? Should I just pull the trigger on 100' and call it a day?
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Old December 29th, 2012, 10:04 PM
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Get 100' and bring a 25' tow strap. You should always carry a tow strap.
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Yes you should always carry a tow strap in case a fellow bimabright brother needs a tow home!
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I've got a towstrap/etc, just like to minimize the additional shackle points / failure points...plus going synthetic to avoid any potential flying "obstacles".
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Old December 29th, 2012, 10:12 PM
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You would be better off with about 80 ft and an extension.
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You would be better off with about 80
Why is that?
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This guy can make up winch line in any length you need - and he's big supporter of many 4wd events across the southeast - good prices too.

http://www.southeastoverland.com/
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This guy can make up winch line in any length you need - and he's big supporter of many 4wd events across the southeast - good prices too.

http://www.southeastoverland.com/
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The winch has more pulling power the closer you get to the drum. And with 125 ft, you have to pull a lot of cable to get to the best pulling power. And, on the east coast, there is usually a tree close by.
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Concur with Scott's point; if it's a choice between 100 and 125, just get the 100'-and if you're worried about long pulls get a winch extension (and keep the tow strap in the kit too).

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x3 on shorter, I have cut mine down to about 75ft. Doing pulls with 20-50 feet off of a 125ft rope is not the best. On the east coast you just do not need as much.
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Steve at southeast overland cut mine down to 65' and put a thimble on and made a 35'ish extension. I run the master pull 26k 3/8 x 100 on my SW husky 10. And I use one of the line locks, from dyna(something).
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x4 on 100 or less, plus extensions. It makes spooling safer too IMO. Also probably why you're have a tough time getting it in 125.
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Alright I'm convinced on the shorter run <100'.

Now how about tensile/breaking strength? I'm looking at $270 for 100' 3/8" @ 17,600lb, $390 same run @ 19,500, or $530 same run @ 23,900. All with the same safety thimble / winch stop.

Of course I'd love to get away at the $270 price point, but is it really worth twice the price to get the higher 23k tensile strength? Or is 17k sufficient?
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Masterful usually have a discount code for expo guys. Check out their posts over there. Personally, I like the higher strength, but 17k should be fine.
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Alright I'm convinced on the shorter run <100'.

Now how about tensile/breaking strength? I'm looking at $270 for 100' 3/8" @ 17,600lb, $390 same run @ 19,500, or $530 same run @ 23,900. All with the same safety thimble / winch stop.

Of course I'd love to get away at the $270 price point, but is it really worth twice the price to get the higher 23k tensile strength? Or is 17k sufficient?
Wow $500 does sound steep. My line is rated at 17-18 and I've seen it lower a 110 verticle from a 15 foot ledge (using a snatch block). I hope to never have to do that again but if I do I wouldn't hesitate for too long.
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How strong is your winch? if you have more than a 17k winch I'd go with the $400 or $500 option. Otherwise the 17k will be fine. It's 3k lbs stronger than 3/8 steel cable which was fine back when we had no other options.
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How strong is your winch? if you have more than a 17k winch I'd go with the $400 or $500 option. Otherwise the 17k will be fine. It's 3k lbs stronger than 3/8 steel cable which was fine back when we had no other options.
Sporting the Warn M10000, I'm going to go with the 3/8 17k in either 80' or 100' I'm pretty sure.
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How strong is your winch? if you have more than a 17k winch I'd go with the $400 or $500 option. Otherwise the 17k will be fine. It's 3k lbs stronger than 3/8 steel cable which was fine back when we had no other options.
This. I still don't understand why everyone is obsessed with 30,000# rope to replace the 8-10000# wire cable on their 9000# winch. Sometimes overkill is a good thing. But having line that strong just transfers the weakest link to another area, be it your winch, shackle, or recovery point.
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It shows up on their website as 3/8ths by 125ft. I bought that exact thing from them through the expo discount. I wanted grey in color so I forget which kind I got.

Amsteel is like $300 for 125ft of 3/8ths.
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