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Old May 25th, 2016, 12:52 AM
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Switching to Alloys?

This may seem out of place at this moment when I've got a half-way-put-together truck, why worry about switching to alloys? Well, I've been asked to sell my wheel and tire combo. Which may mean I have NO wheels and tires in the near future.

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Pics of various types on various ROW vehicles please.

Also, what's up with spacers? Several people I know and trust have told me no spacers are needed. But I've seen them mentioned here several times. When I try to dig up the issue through the various KGB and NSA style search procedures needed to find anything on this site, I don't get any real answers.

Do any of you have any alloys for sale? I would really want a full set of five, but four would do for now.
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Old May 25th, 2016, 01:03 AM
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I've always heard just the opposite and that alloys won't fit without spacers or different axles. Spacers are just one more thing to worry about, but since you have your truck half apart, you could address the axles if you really really really wanted alloys without spacers. But I'm only NAS, with no row experience, and only know what I've read in the past.

Btw, which alloys are you preferring? Boost, deep dish, freestyle/tornado? I have a classic on dd's in Portland right now and a set of boosts in Eugene. Not really attached to any of them. Just let me know.
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Old May 25th, 2016, 01:48 AM
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Spacers may be needed to clear the drive flange. I tried to slap a set of boosts on my first Defender and there was contact with the drive flange so I gave up.

You will also need a new set of lug nuts for your alloys. Spacer also means potentially less bite on your OEM studs, so either longer studs or a bolt on spacer.
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Old May 25th, 2016, 01:51 AM
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Update your axles and problem solved.
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Old May 25th, 2016, 08:14 AM
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Stay with the steelies.
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Freestyle alloys (NAS style) are available via craigslist quite often. I got mine on there and regularly see them pop up. They are the same as 1998 and lower D1s and '95 RRCs. The key is to find 5, with center caps and lugs. I got a set (including tires I didn't want, brand new Pirelli snow tires from a D1 245r16 if anybody wants them ) including lugs and caps for $325. Usually the wheels alone are about $50 a pop. Yes on spacers. They are in the for sale section all the time and if you do a WTB, you will get a prompt reply. Here's a set of alloys on MSP Craigslist as we speak. Best of luck. Keep us updated.
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Stay with the steelies.
x2! early 80's trucks with prom dresses is never cuts it.

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[QUOTE="1of40;741763"] x2! An early 80
row with alloys is like a fat chick in heels.
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"An early 80 row with alloys is like a fat chick in heels."

Harsh! Lol Grin!
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Good info. What is weight diff between steel and alloy?
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I've always had weight issues with my cars, loading them up, going over hills, distributing weight, etc... The overall weight of each wheel contributes to the realized power you get from the engine as well. And looking to have a tire carrier built that is as low profile as possible, but that could handle the spare plus tools, etc...

I'm not 100% sold on alloys, but if I could sell a full set of steels plus the tires, start from scratch, I'd probably give it a go.
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Yet keep in consideration that tire weight has a greater disparity between types and brands than the difference between alloy and steel.

For example, my Toyo mt's weigh about 15lbs more than the comparable bfg. Just sayin' ;-)
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Good info. What is weight diff between steel and alloy?
Remember alloys and steel is to meet different performance criteria. Steel is for off road and alloys are not.
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Yet keep in consideration that tire weight has a greater disparity between types and brands than the difference between alloy and steel. For example, my Toyo mt's weigh about 15lbs more than the comparable bfg. Just sayin' ;-)
Yes. I am trying to find the tire weights for comparison right now!
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EE and Tacomaworld websites have everything of that nature.

http://www.expeditionportal.com/foru...omparison-pics)

They link to a nice calculator, too.

https://www.tacomaworld.com/tirecalc
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Yes, I'll be getting 235's or 255's depending on price and availability... which is difficult to find for some reason... Seems like America's Tire, Costco, Discount, etc... no one has them available at this time. I'll probably have to go in and make a special order in person.
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I just found out that Amazon has tires. Free shipping if you have prime.
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Oooooo! I'll check that out!
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Remember alloys and steel is to meet different performance criteria. Steel is for off road and alloys are not.
Really? http://walkerevansracing.com/ You don't say....

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For about $400 you could grab a set of Disco axles at a local yard. You just need to change the flange on the rear diff. Or you could upgrade them with Dynatracs.

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Actually, depending on what parts are needed your welcome to my NAS axles for free. I'm sure the hubs are good, just the cases are rusty.
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Really? http://walkerevansracing.com/ You don't say....
Those grocery getters?

But seriously, in general steelies will serve the average guy better off road than an alloy IMO. A bent alloy that's leaking air is done. A steel wheel should withstand more punishment.
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