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Old February 24th, 2015, 06:32 PM
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Swapping 1988 Doors for newer Puma

I will be swapping out my current doors on my 1988 with push button handles for new Puma doors due to some significant rust on the bottoms and bubbling on the skins..I was told I needed a special bracket to swap out the innards of my current door to the new door..., I was also told I would need longer door lock tumblers...is there anything else that would be an issue? Will my door cards fit without an issue? I assume I could also put door actuators and even power window regulators if I so choose...

Also is it easier to do the strip while on the vehicle, and then pull off, and hang the new door and then build up or is it easier to pull off the whole door and lay flat on the bench and do the strip / buildup?

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Old February 24th, 2015, 07:13 PM
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Adam are you doing the work yourself? I ask because I have a buddy who has a mobile customization shop (MMI) in the Garfield area, and he hooked up my door actuators/power windows (which I later scrapped). Let me know, since you're local and all....
He's not a Defender guy per se, but knows his way around fitting a square peg into a round hole, and anything electronic.

PM me if you want his details.
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Old February 24th, 2015, 07:19 PM
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I will be swapping out my current doors on my 1988 with push button handles for new Puma doors due to some significant rust on the bottoms and bubbling on the skins..I was told I needed a special bracket to swap out the innards of my current door to the new door..., I was also told I would need longer door lock tumblers...is there anything else that would be an issue? Will my door cards fit without an issue? I assume I could also put door actuators and even power window regulators if I so choose... Also is it easier to do the strip while on the vehicle, and then pull off, and hang the new door and then build up or is it easier to pull off the whole door and lay flat on the bench and do the strip / buildup? Adam
Your door cards won't fit.

How much door do you have? Sounds like just the outer? Don't thing much of the original door hardware is compatible.
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Your door cards won't fit.

How much door do you have? Sounds like just the outer? Don't thing much of the original door hardware is compatible.
It's the basic door but with no innards......was expecting to reuse the glass, latch's, linkages, etc..

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Adam are you doing the work yourself? I ask because I have a buddy who has a mobile customization shop (MMI) in the Garfield area, and he hooked up my door actuators/power windows (which I later scrapped). Let me know, since you're local and all....
He's not a Defender guy per se, but knows his way around fitting a square peg into a round hole, and anything electronic.

PM me if you want his details.
I am doing most of the work myself, however I may farm out a few items so I would gladly take is info...
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Old February 25th, 2015, 12:02 AM
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You're not going to be able to reuse much if anything. You'll probably want to replace the felt, rubber, and plastic channels anyway. I don't recall if the regulators are compatible, but the new ones are different. The glass attaches differently. New glass has bonded-on tabs, the old glass had a press-fit channel. You can take off the channel and glue on the newer tabs to reuse old glass. As mentioned, the door cards don't fit. You'll also need to compare which kind of check strap is fitted and change out the door strikers. And yes, the locks in newer doors are longer to accommodate the ignition key. If you didn't buy complete doors then this could end up being an expensive parts-chasing exercise.
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^ what he said. It sounded like a great idea until it wasn't.
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when i did my 95' to puma door conversion - i swapped the entire door complete i.e. the puma door was complete and only needed paint to make it work. The tumblers in the puma doors were rekeyed to work with my keys (Puma as well, 1 key fits everything) i reused the stock 95 check straps and added in speakers via a stereo shop doing the work. the strikers had to be moved but the holes were in place already so that was a no brainer. I also have a Gutter kit and used the hard top door seals. Adding worked perfect.

so if your going to do it - i would just source complete doors and avoid parts chasing and potentially more cost.
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