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Old August 17th, 2016, 11:26 AM
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Swap LS or 4.6 convert

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I have a 97 that I am debating whether or not to swap a LS 6.0 or rebuild my 4.0 to 4.6. I am not going to dd this truck and don't plan on selling but do care about resell value. Anyway, what do you all suggest?
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Old August 17th, 2016, 11:29 AM
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All,

I have a 97 that I am debating whether or not to swap a LS 6.0 or rebuild my 4.0 to 4.6. I am not going to dd this truck and don't plan on selling but do care about resell value. Anyway, what do you all suggest?
Thanks!


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While I have never been in an LS Defender. LS.

There is nothing special about the Rover engines other then they are made by Rover. Somewhat unreliable, poor fuel economy, not much power.

One thing to watch out for is OBD2 inspection. A 97 swapped car probably wouldn't pass inspection in NY.
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Old August 17th, 2016, 11:48 AM
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The 4.6 will be a cheaper option, hands down. If that's not an issue, the LS is going to offer better performance, fuel economy and reliability without question.

The last LS conversion I performed was on a truck that had just recently undergone a 4.6 swap. The customer wanted big power and the engine was very, very modified and in my opinion running completely ragged. It pinged like hell, ran hot, didn't like to start cold and got absolutely horrendous fuel economy. Granted, whoever built the thing probably wasn't the most qualified, but all of those issues only offered about 300hp.

The LS, on the other hand, will offer more power in a stock configuration without being temperamental. I find that the trucks are far more enjoyable to drive and I don't fatigue nearly as much on longer trips. Parts availability and the fact that damn near any shop can service the engine is also a big plus for lots of guys who don't have specialists in their area.

As for resale, you're no longer catering to the purist crowd, but in my experience there's ten guys who would love to have a Defender but don't want to deal with their issues for every one purist. The LS makes it a more appealing platform to prospective buyers who aren't enthusiasts.

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Old August 17th, 2016, 11:54 AM
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LS!LS!LS! Don't be a wimp... Your 97 is gonna be a lot heavier so you need an LS
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Old August 17th, 2016, 12:45 PM
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Thanks guys. Truck will be registered in state where swap is legal.
Ash- I appreciate your input. I want reliable and don't think purists will want my truck once it's complete.


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Old August 17th, 2016, 12:58 PM
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Thanks guys. Truck will be registered in state where swap is legal.
Ash- I appreciate your input. I want reliable and don't think purists will want my truck once it's complete.


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You've got the right idea. Every time I have this conversation with a customer it comes down to one question: Are you building this truck for yourself or for someone else? I'd rather take a hit on resale than dump tons of time and money into a truck that wasn't exactly what I wanted.

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Old August 17th, 2016, 01:25 PM
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You keep a 67 Chevelle SS all original.
All others are subject to customize to your liking.
Go LS.

PS. Sorry, I'm not a Chevy fan, I'm an Olds fan, though I would never turn down one down if given to me.
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Old August 17th, 2016, 02:25 PM
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You keep a 67 Chevelle SS all original.
All others are subject to customize to your liking.
Go LS.

PS. Sorry, I'm not a Chevy fan, I'm an Olds fan, though I would never turn down one down if given to me.
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I'm personally a much bigger 69.2 chevelle fan. 396 is a monster and looks better than 70-72


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Bearing in mind the Rover V8 is an ex-Buick, who cares who makes the motor. For all the reasons above, LS just makes so much sense esp for long term reliability and fuel economy. Cost can be reasonable if you don't go silly on the motor and do the swap yourself.
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Old August 17th, 2016, 06:04 PM
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LS. It doesn't have to be super-spendy, either. I bought an LC9 & 6L80e for $3k, wiring harness included. I'll be into it about $8k when I'm done (ancillaries, adapter bits, etc.) but it'll transform the truck. I see it as an investment in the future.
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Thanks guys. Truck will be registered in state where swap is legal. Ash- I appreciate your input. I want reliable and don't think purists will want my truck once it's complete. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reliability is off the charts. The family suburban has 200k miles and zero engine issues. Trans shat the bed at 70k though. Between oil changes it burns a qt of oil. It gets 16mph. It's on its original wires, O2's and exhaust. Has Never failed emissions. You can't kill it.
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have you considered a coyote engine?
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Old August 18th, 2016, 08:53 AM
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have you considered a coyote engine?
Adapter availability perhaps?
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Old August 18th, 2016, 05:02 PM
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Thanks for all the input. I'm putting a L99 in.


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