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Old September 9th, 2010, 04:09 PM
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SW rear headliner

The rear headliner has always sagged just above the alpine windows since I bought the truck. I was thinking about taking it out and having it replaced. I read through other threads and they seem to indicate that I need to remove the roll cage to get the bar between the front and back out to get the liner out.

Do I really need to go through all that? I realize it is just nuts and bolts but seems like a good amount of time to get that done and if I do that, I might as well have it all powder coated again.

will an upholsterer redo the whole thing new or do they try to recover the old one? If I do have to take the cage out, should I just do the front and rear liners? probably I guess...

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Old April 14th, 2011, 04:46 PM
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Hi Bill, Did you ever fix the headliner on the SW? I'm outside now trying to fix the same sag on my headliner and everything is apart except the rollcage. It looks like the rollcage is gonna have to be moved unless you were able to bend the headliner past without damage. I jumped into this project today thinking it was going to be easy!

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Old April 14th, 2011, 05:56 PM
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anyone thought about spraying an epoxy glue or hardener (fiberglass) to get the headliner strength?
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Old April 14th, 2011, 06:19 PM
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Bending the headliner is a non issue. Pull it out, get it recovered and put it back in. The back section you literally bend to get in and out. Even when it is recovered you wont hurt it doing this.
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Old April 14th, 2011, 07:03 PM
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Bending the headliner is a non issue. Pull it out, get it recovered and put it back in. The back section you literally bend to get in and out. Even when it is recovered you wont hurt it doing this.
You are right it almost has to be bent in two to get it out of the back door. I did loosen the rollcage hoop so I could push it forward to get some more room while pulling it down. It all worked out, just alittle more work than expected.

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Old April 15th, 2011, 08:43 AM
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Old April 15th, 2011, 11:03 AM
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Post a pic. I am sure people would like to see how it came out.
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Old April 15th, 2011, 11:57 PM
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Post a pic. I am sure people would like to see how it came out.
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Thinking of doing the same. Front headliner is dropping down around sunroof.
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Old April 16th, 2011, 12:17 AM
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Doing the headliner in the 110 was a bitch as it is three pieces and so many pins. Not to mention I added two extra interior lights so I had to make the appropriate cuts and add wiring. In a 90 though since it has the lights already and it is only two pieces (three if you count the trip over the door that should be done at the same time) I would personally stick with getting it recovered in fabric. Any upholstery shop should be able to do it and most modern fabrics are very nice and should last longer than the nas crap. I went with something similar to what is in an lr3. Came out great. You need all new pins to install it as well.
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Old April 17th, 2011, 09:23 AM
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Has anyone been able to get the existing cover reglued? Mine is sagging a bit but otherwise in good shape.
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Old April 17th, 2011, 10:50 AM
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Unless it is really minor I don't think it will work.
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Old April 17th, 2011, 12:56 PM
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I had mine recovered last fall and re-installed it a couple of weeks ago. I thought there would be a way for a gentle install but there isn't. Its a mix of finessing and man-handling the thing. If you have rear seats they will probably have to come out. The front part of the rear headliner that slips between roll cage (if its an NAS) and front headliner needs to go in first or you'll never get it in.
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I got my headliners redone like Barry and they turned out really nice. Much better than the original material. Mine is also very similar to the LR3 material. Best part is that it doesn't look like cheap vinyl but like a normal car. Wasn't expensive at all if you get the pieces out and take them to a shop. Its an easy job for them if all they have to do is recover and not re-install. I took out the roll cage to get the back one out of my SW. You do have to bend it to get it in and out but as Barry said, it doesn't hurt it at all.
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I got my headliners redone like Barry and they turned out really nice. Much better than the original material. Mine is also very similar to the LR3 material. Best part is that it doesn't look like cheap vinyl but like a normal car. Wasn't expensive at all if you get the pieces out and take them to a shop. Its an easy job for them if all they have to do is recover and not re-install. I took out the roll cage to get the back one out of my SW. You do have to bend it to get it in and out but as Barry said, it doesn't hurt it at all.
What color did you go with? A light grey or a light beige like the LR3 in tis picture. Or something completly
different.
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For mine, I took the sun visor with me and tried to find a fabric as close as possible.
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Old April 19th, 2011, 10:36 PM
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I went with graphite (dark grey). White headliners don't age well IMO and this color matches the my black door skins and black seats nicely.
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I went to a local shop today and looked at fabric samples and ordered "Opal grey" I think the color# was 2119 with 1/8th inch foam backing. I will post some pics once I am finally all done with the install.

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Would love to see... I'm having similar issues, yet mine is sagging all over.
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The front part of the rear headliner that slips between roll cage (if its an NAS) and front headliner needs to go in first or you'll never get it in.
how true is this statement? i just re- installed my rear headliner and am finding it's not easy to tuck the front under the rear part. however, i'm trying to do it solo...

i'm hoping if i find a helping hand, i can do it without removing the rear liner again, as i already put the side windows back in etc...
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