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Old January 9th, 2007, 11:25 AM
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SW 3rd Brake Light

The 3rd brake light on the 110 finally self destructed and isn't repairable. I was told (by RN I think) that it's NLA. Anybody know that for sure?

I suppose I could just do away with it, but IMO, it's not a bad thing to have.

If it is NLA, I'm thinking about retrofitting a D-90 SW's 3rd brake light. Anybody have any closeup pics?

I see George is selling 3rd brake lights, but it looks like a housing of some sort is missing. Is that right? How does that thing mount to the door?

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Old January 9th, 2007, 01:23 PM
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Rovers Down South had one listed for sale.

Give George a call.
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Old January 11th, 2007, 02:59 AM
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The original 110 3rd brake light is much nicer than the one that came on my 1997 D90 SW. You don't want one it is a piece of crap. It is a poor attempt to use a lamp designed for something else. It is bolted into a heavy rubber piece that is stuck to the glass with 2 sided tape. It also damaged my heated window foil because it pulled it off the glass. I have been looking for one off a 110 to replace it.

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Old January 11th, 2007, 12:32 PM
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You don't want one it is a piece of crap. It is a poor attempt to use a lamp designed for something else. It is bolted into a heavy rubber piece that is stuck to the glass with 2 sided tape.
That's the info I was looking for. Thanks! Guess I'll keep looking.

I wonder if one of these might be made to work:

http://www.commandelectronics.com/th...ke-lights.html
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Old January 11th, 2007, 01:07 PM
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Rob, don't you have a nice bright LED mounted in the door frame??
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Old February 6th, 2007, 09:52 AM
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I have been looking for one off a 110 to replace it.
Just to close the loop on this, Trevor @ The Rovah Farm (www.rovahfarm.com) was able to find me the parts. A complete 110 3rd brake light actually consists of two parts (of course!):

AMR2051, Light, $55.45
AMR2154, Inside Cover, $22.04
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Old February 1st, 2012, 09:03 PM
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Replacing the 3rd Brake Light on a SW D90

Reviving this old thread. I just got Mantec Interior Window Guards and when test fitting I noticed that the 3rd Brake Light needs to be moved up slightly for everything to fit. I am also considering replacing the heated glass so I would have to remove it anyway.

What is the big difference between the 90 and the 110 3rd Brake Light? How does the 110 Light attach to the glass? It appears that the 90 glass uses double stick tape or glue. It was mentioned here that the 110 light is so much better then the 90. How so? Is it worth upgrading to the 110 lamp assembly?
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Old February 1st, 2012, 09:38 PM
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I say get rid of that big old light...put it in storage and buy a generic high mount stop light of LED design...I just bought one that is on with lights and then gets brighter with brake lights...a long strip and much more visible..
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Old February 1st, 2012, 09:41 PM
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Great suggestion except I am now stuck with the square rover design of high brake lights because the cut-out for the Mantec window guard is designed around it. Anything else is guaranteed not to fit and I'm pretty set on installing the guard.
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Old February 1st, 2012, 10:01 PM
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I think I saw one for sale on ebay just the other day...I think I was looking for high mount brake light and it came up..Will see if I can find it again..

------ Follow up post added February 1st, 2012 10:04 PM ------

here it is.. item number 250752596581
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Old February 1st, 2012, 10:05 PM
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They're not that hard to come by. I'd probably buy new from the UK as they're cheap enough. I was just wondering what the main difference was between the 90 and the 110 version since it was mentioned that the 110 one was sooooo much better.
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Old February 1st, 2012, 10:07 PM
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I would probably change the regular bulb over to a led bulb...generates less heat and they SAY its brighter...may help the housings last longer
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Old February 1st, 2012, 10:12 PM
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A new assembly is $50 so I would probably go that route over fleabay. I already have a 48 LED bulb in there from superbrightleds.com. I only have my headlights and Hellas left to convert. Everything else is already LED (turn, brake, markers, dash, interior, etc, etc).
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I recently used a Ron Francis 4" LED rear light for the door. Look nice and is factory similar (not exact of course).

http://www.ronfrancis.com/products.asp?dept=25

Nice light, easy install of course.
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The adhesive used for the stock SW 3rd brake light is a black elastic adhesive. Where can I buy this? Anyone know what it is called? The standard cheap rearview mirror glue sucks. This other black stuff is incredibly solid even after 17 years after install.
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Try and get product by Wurth or 3M
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I don't know about the brakes, only their unreliability.
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Old July 7th, 2012, 08:42 AM
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I just received all the parts for my 3rd brake light.

The original had double sided tape.

3m automotive double sided tape pretty much is the automotive standard.

I'm going to try this.
http://www.amazon.com/3M-03614-Scotc...=pd_sim_auto_2

Also I am thinking of modifying the light to use 3 led strips instead of a bulb....will see.
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Old July 7th, 2012, 09:55 AM
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Is the 3M tape black? I really like the black rubber-like goop they used because it seeps into the holes on the little window mounting feature/bolt which makes it solid and vibration resistant and since the housing, mounting feature and goop is black you can't see it from the outside of the window when when mounted. I'm afraid white tape will stand out too much.
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Yes it is black. 3m has different versions of double sided tape. The automotive versions are black. Also I just returned from the states yesterday, and while at a Walmart I bought 3m heavy duty mounting tape as well as the automotive variety. The heavy duty tape is for the home....10lb strength if I remember correctly. It is also the black rubbery type.

http://www.amazon.com/3M-Scotch-4011.../dp/B00004Z4BV

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I found something similar to what they may have used initially but it's $200 a tube:
http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3...glCZ7XGVCZVCbl
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