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Old September 13th, 2006, 05:34 PM
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Substantial Body Lean

My truck seems to have developed a significant lean towards the drivers side. When I measure from the ground to the top of the wheel arch I come up with the following:

Drivers Front - 36.75"
Drivers Rear - 37.25"
Passenger Front - 37.75"
Passenger Rear - 38.75"

I ahd the shop switch the springs from the drivers side to the passenger side and the truck still leans.

I have Rovertym 2" springs and a SG 3-link, I also have the SG external front shock mounts and the stage 3 rear mounts. I'm putting on new shocks tomorrow to see if that is the culprit.

Any advice.
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Old September 13th, 2006, 05:39 PM
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Have you gained alot of weight?
I've seen alot of cars on the highway that lean that way......
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Old September 13th, 2006, 05:39 PM
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Check your tire pressure :D You might be developing a "dead spring". Make sure to jump up and down on the rig on all sides to settle everything and measure again, just in case if its a sticking shock like you said.
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Old September 13th, 2006, 07:40 PM
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I assume with the suspension upgrades you removed your rear swaybar? One winter I put the rear sway on to improve the pavement ride. I then had withdrawals and wheeled it with the sway on. On one side the sway bushing inverted and stayed that way until I released it with a crow bar. But the inversion caused the truck to sit exactly as you stated. If you switched Lf to Rt springs and still have a lean , it could be due to shocks if they are nitro charged. My lf rear leaks down to less than 100 psi monthly. Good luck JP
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Old September 13th, 2006, 07:42 PM
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Yes, sway bars are removed. Tire pressure is good to go. Hopefully the new shocks will help. Picking them up tomorrow from SG, I went with the 12" adjustable reservoirs.

Keep the ideas coming!
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Old September 13th, 2006, 07:51 PM
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are your springs retained? If not, the spring may not be seated properly.

I had the same problem when I ran OME, when I switched to the Rovertym it went away. Another possibility could be, since the vehicles are hand made, that the spring seat isn't welded equally to the one on the other side. I don't think that would make up an inch, but it could contribute.

If all else fails, try new spring. Changing the shock isn't going to fix it.
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Old September 13th, 2006, 08:06 PM
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Springs are retained. The rovertyms are about 1-2 years old, but like I said I switched them from one side to the other and it still leaned to the drivers side both ways. I suppose I could buy new springs but should they be bad after only a year or two?

I'll check the perch mounts
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Old September 13th, 2006, 09:07 PM
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Hey Joe,

Maybe related, but maybe not too. Be sure to torque bown all the bolts on your 3 link as maintenance. Be sure that the two bolts attaching your radius arms at the frame end are equal too. Your springs should be fine after 2 years. 1 inch is way too much for shocks to be responsible for, even with no charge vs. 150. When did you first notice the lean?
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Old September 13th, 2006, 11:14 PM
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I've been checking the 3-link mounting bolts, but i'll check to make sure the radius arms are equal.

More thoughts? anyone?
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Old September 14th, 2006, 12:53 AM
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Have you aired it out at all lately? If you can't figure it out, next time you are out my way I can put some spring spacers in for you.
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Old September 14th, 2006, 08:41 AM
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I had a disco that did the same thing. turned out to be a bad shock.
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Old September 14th, 2006, 02:18 PM
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Put new shocks on.

Measurements:

Drivers Front - 36.75"
Passenger Front 37.875"
Drivers Rear - 37.5"
Passenger Rear 37.875

More suggestions please.
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Old September 14th, 2006, 02:46 PM
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Take a close look at the spring perches. Any frame rust or rot?
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Old September 14th, 2006, 02:49 PM
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did you notice a lean before? or not sure?

Try measuring the the length from the spring seat to the spring pertch. This may tell you if it is a mounting/frame issue or a spring/shock/bushing issue.


Also check the ground with a level to count that out. do you ahve anything heavy mounted int he truck?

When my extra fuel tank is full and water tank empty my truck leans.
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Old September 14th, 2006, 03:02 PM
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I just measured from the top to bottom of each perch and there is a 1/2" difference between the drivers side and the passenger side on both the front and rear. Wondering if a 1/2" spacer is all I need. Not sure of a 1/2" difference on the spring perch would result in a 1" difference in the wheel arched, but it seems like it could. I never really noticed before but maybe the more you lift the more you notice it.
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Old September 14th, 2006, 03:55 PM
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Really, the perches are different heights? That should explain why many suggest you buy handed springs - taller driver's side. Then why wouldn't we tack weld a spacer there and be done with it? No more handed spring nonsense.

My 97 has OME's and it sags to the driver's side - with less than 10K miles on them. Can't recall if they are handed (bought them from Rover Accessories).
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Old September 14th, 2006, 04:53 PM
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I bet that is it... Wierd...but not really these are rovers

I like the tack welding a spacer suggestion... although one of those pre made shim thingys that OME makes would probably do the trick... Now you have me curious on mine... but I think I woudl prefer not to know
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Old September 14th, 2006, 10:07 PM
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My truck was leaning about 1.5" to the drivers side so I just had the springs replaced (2" rovertym). It still leans 1/4" to the drivers side. Whatever.
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Old September 14th, 2006, 11:33 PM
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Well, I'd say 1/4-inch difference is fine.

What springs did you have before and how old?
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Old September 15th, 2006, 12:00 AM
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I had Rovertym 3", but they were the old style. Probably 2002ish?

I ended up going with the RR1-2 and the RR4-2. I`m kind of pissed off though, because it is supposed to be their heavy duty spring but the rear end sags. I`m going to have to look into a way of dealing with this
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