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Old May 31st, 2015, 11:25 AM
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But a proper release arm on a V8 is cast iron.
Yip..clutch fork is a cast iron item....why oh why did they ever replace it with mild steel I'll never know?...well..yes,really...to save a few pennies...


(They do at least use a cast iron one one on Td5's)








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Old May 31st, 2015, 03:08 PM
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Cast iRon? Well... cast steel anyway.
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Old May 31st, 2015, 03:12 PM
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Yip..clutch fork is a cast iron item....why oh why did they ever replace it with mild steel I'll never know?...well..yes,really...to save a few pennies...


(They do at least use a cast iron one one on Td5's)
The TDI ones are not mild steel. They are a very hard steel actually. Just too thin.
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Old May 31st, 2015, 03:13 PM
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Whu-happens... bearing gets sticky and they bend/break?
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Old May 31st, 2015, 04:34 PM
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Whu-happens... bearing gets sticky and they bend/break?
Correct..hard but not too thick lol....the pushrod of the slave cylinder just wears a hole through the dimple in time....you can buy reinforced ones or if a standard one,weld a small steel plate on the back to cover the dimple...so if it does pierce through it'll be rubbing on that instead...

Standard here....

FTC2957 CLUTCH RELEASE FORK | Discovery 1 1989-1998 Clutch | shop | www.lrseries.com


Reinforced here...
FTC2957HD | Heavy Duty Clutch Release Fork

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Old May 31st, 2015, 04:36 PM
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I've seen that. Pretty standard. grease your push rod and replace with clutch. Would be a strange scenario to push through one in one clutch I'd think.

Then again, the metal GB uses is like 80s japan steel. Some other standard than what we use in the US.
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Agreed....not a very,very common problem but it does occur. I had 300,000kms odd on my 300tdi and when I changed my clutch(due to a thrust bearing howling like a banshee) my clutch fork was actually OK sort of,if that makes sense. I don't think it would've lasted the clutch if the bearing hadn't have been howling...but,who knows!

In went an AP driveline kit along with a reinforced fork for good measure,for only a few euros more.











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Replaced both master and slave still nothing. Trying the pipe next then on to actual clutch and pressure plate next
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Old June 1st, 2015, 09:30 AM
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I feel for you. So frustrating....
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Derek,
the closest Rover shop is 30 miles north in Plymouth.
David Reimels is an old timer who worked in Sollihull when he was a younger guy (he's in his 70s now), but knows Rovers.
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they do a lot of General repairs, but David would probably slide you in today's docket if you're in a bind. He's seen all the problems. I wouldn't send quirky late-model Defenders or TDis in his direction, as he is more of a Series guy, but he's worked on my truck before and he's a good guy. He's the guy you want if you need synchros replaced in an LT77 or rebuilt your sals, but not the guy to work through GEMS issues or tune the boost on a TD5.


He doesn't have a shop tow truck, but maybe if you could borrow Ben's trailer and two it up to Dave....


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------ Follow up post added June 1st, 2015 09:40 AM ------

BTW, When my clutch went last year, I had the same symptoms, but my pedal was spongy with no pressure until 3'4 way down and only partial disengagement of the clutch. You could start it in gear with clutch depressed and the truck would creep forward.


Went about replacing the master and slave just as you did.
Turns out the throughout bearing had bound up and twisted the fork and only one half of the lever was actuating the throwout bearing. Needless to say, the transmission had to come out and throughout bearing replaced. It's a shitty break.

------ Follow up post added June 1st, 2015 09:41 AM ------

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Old June 1st, 2015, 10:19 AM
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Im back in VT now. I left the 110 with staufferdave6 in Rehoboth. I worked with find till midnight friday then had to go back to the other Rovers as they needed to be operating in the field and had to be back in VT for monday,

Dave tried new master and slave sunday still nothing. He is going to give it another shot early this week. If he cant I will see if he can get it over to Plymouth.

Its been a great 110 so I cant complain at all. All stuff like this really shows how awesome our community is.
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All stuff like this really shows how awesome our community is.
I remember getting stuck out in the woods while wheeling years back and countless times being stuck in the middle of nowhere while riding dirtbikes. There is no worse feeling than having to abandon your truck, bike, whatever and go home, or try to find somebody to help. Anyone that's been stranded knows the feeling and how grateful they are to whomever lends a hand, part whatever.
Even if I weren't part of the D-90 community, I'd "pay it forward" any time.
Let me know if I can help arrange anything. I'm stretched pretty thin timewise this week, but if I can help I certainty will.




Actually, if you're in Rehobeth, you may consider Alan Elliot at Cityside garage in Holliston, MA instead of Reimels (if Dave Reimels is busy).


There is another shop in West Bridgewater (even closer to Rehobeth) that routinely works on my buddy's TD5 but I can't recall the name off hand. They are a British car specialist (mostly vintage Jags etc.)


I think the transmission will need to be dropped so it's a bit beyond the capability of a driveway type of repair (sound like it anyway).
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Old June 1st, 2015, 11:06 AM
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you can slide the trans back enough to do the clutch. Done them in the driveway before though it wouldn't be my preference. It can be done. Good luck!
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We might have had a stroke of luck. It appears the slave for a v8 is bigger then a 4cyl one we used. We are going to try a new v8 slave tomorrow.
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Derek, if you need a hand getting the 110 from Rehoboth back to Charlotte when fixed let me know. I could run it up there for you if schedule permits.
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Better choice than Cityside is BDR in Holliston.
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Thanks guys. Worst case I can always get it shipped for probably $400. I don't want to inconvenience anyone Main goal is just getting her running again. Hopefully this latest batch of parts from RN will do it.
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Not even close. Lionage turned down a offer from a member of the forum and client of mine to swap his whole lt77 with a spare he had just rebuilt free for him.

------ Follow up post added June 1st, 2015 12:57 PM ------

Also his was locked in gear. My clutch just is not actuating.
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Its Deja vu from Linoage's saga.

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