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Old February 15th, 2008, 06:32 PM
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Stereo Angle...a problem?

Has anyone else had problems with stereos crapping out? I have gone through 3 head units in the last 2 years. The last two were marine (Jenson and JBL) and the previous was a Sony.

My concern is the angle and vibration (many mfg specs asy 20-30 degrees max) . I rarely use CD's but the units keep dying. I do drive a ton of washboard, so it could be a combination of angle and vibration.

I'm thinking of going to one of the "black box" units for boats but seems like a PITA for nothing. On a different note...has anyone seen a head unit that recives short wave?

Suggestions...please...

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Old February 15th, 2008, 07:15 PM
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Old February 15th, 2008, 09:25 PM
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I'm thinking of going to one of the "black box" units for boats but seems like a PITA for nothing. On a different note...has anyone seen a head unit that recives short wave?

Suggestions...please...

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Please elaborate on this "black box" that you speak of...

How exactly have the previous two crapped out??? I'm wondering if you have a wiring short that is causing it. I'm thinking about getting this. No CD to mess with, less moving parts and a bigger screen...
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Old February 15th, 2008, 09:57 PM
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Blaupunkt has some head units which are designed to be mounted vertically, but they are the only mfg I know of that allows a CD to be played at that angle. Other than CD or DVD play, the head unit should be good at any angle unless liquids become part of the equation.
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Has anyone else had problems with stereos crapping out? I have gone through 3 head units in the last 2 years. The last two were marine (Jenson and JBL) and the previous was a Sony.

My concern is the angle and vibration (many mfg specs asy 20-30 degrees max) . I rarely use CD's but the units keep dying. I do drive a ton of washboard, so it could be a combination of angle and vibration.

I'm thinking of going to one of the "black box" units for boats but seems like a PITA for nothing. On a different note...has anyone seen a head unit that recives short wave?

Suggestions...please...

Cheers
If you beat on a rig or drive in very dusty conditions they just don't last. I think the best way to get around this is to get an amp with an Ipod port and forgo the head unit all together. Mine is on its last leg right now, although it does work upside down.
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Please elaborate on this "black box" that you speak of...

How exactly have the previous two crapped out??? I'm wondering if you have a wiring short that is causing it. I'm thinking about getting this. No CD to mess with, less moving parts and a bigger screen...
Going with the same head unit myself. The reliability of the iPod is great, in very cold weather even below -30 celsius it still works fine. I leave my iPod plugged in all the time except for uploads of music. Otherwise it stay in the car at all times. I have another Alpine headunit in the car right now and love it. I will also add the bluetooth add on.

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Going with the same head unit myself. The reliability of the iPod is great, in very cold weather even below -30 celsius it still works fine. I leave my iPod plugged in all the time except for uploads of music. Otherwise it stay in the car at all times. I have another Alpine headunit in the car right now and love it. I will also add the bluetooth add on.

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I have always toyed with installing a computer surround sound in my truck. Most have a ac/dc adapter for 12V, so ditch the adapter and wire it to a relay that is controlled with the ignition switch and plug your ipod into it. I have not tried it, but I imagine the subwoofer speaker combo would sound great and at $30 off ebay or wherever, you could do it cheap. Put the speakers in the various corners and go cruizing...
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I had a Sony go out on me and it was definitely because of the mounting angle.


I ran into a store real quick. I had just cracked open a full Tecate and set it on the console. Kimo, my dog (likes Tecate) was asleep in the back. When I came back Kimo was licking my stereo. Empty Tecate can on my seat.

Kimo poured my full beer down the deck. Luckily I could eject the CD but that was the last task the deck accomplished.

I have an Alpine now (going on 3 years) with iPOD connect and no problems.

Unfortunately, Kimo has moved on. Hopefully to a place where the Tecate flows freely.

Angus and Rider now enjoy my Tecates.
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Please elaborate on this "black box" that you speak of...

How exactly have the previous two crapped out??? I'm wondering if you have a wiring short that is causing it. I'm thinking about getting this. No CD to mess with, less moving parts and a bigger screen...
The black box units have a separate amp/reciever with a wire running to a waterproof face. Pretty cool and would allow for horizontal mounting of the amp. Type in black box marine in google, Sony and jbl.

The current head unit ( jenson marine) turns on you can go through all the menues... But sound rarely works. Not even a beep while changing vol. All the wiring is fine( checked many times) but no luck. The previous just stopped one day. And the other was just junk.
I have taken it out and tested on a separate 12 v source with the same results.

So you all have had good luck with the alpine?? Maybe I'll give it a shot, but the more I think about the black box the more I like it. The display could be mounted up front. And it would open up the current location
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Have a Pioneer and its lasting no issues. It gets rained on since I run with out a top once it warms up. I have killed a XM tuner though.
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I think Pioneers are designed to run at steep angles - many are not. I've heard that Alpine units will work as well but that is not confirmed. Best solution is to install one of the Iron Goat dash kits like I did and move it up to the dashboard.
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Pioneer- cheap and easy

A tech at Crutchfield and a installer at Best Buy both said that Pioneer decks do the best at an angle. I am on my third (because of selling the vehicles- not the decks going out) and they have been great- CD function as well as Ipod and XM. I mounted them in Tuffy boxes and also the standard cubby box. They don't seem to mind dust and rain either although I do tend to close the box and cover them somewhat when it is ugly outside.

Also- if you spend the 30 or so for the warranty at Best Buy when they die you can have them replaced. I've done it with speakers that were rained on a few too many times. They swapped them out for me in an hour.
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