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Old October 19th, 2013, 09:15 AM
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Steering play

I have a relatively new steering box, that is in good condition.
The steering was tight over a year ago, and now is a little loose.
Can I tighten it up easily?
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Old October 19th, 2013, 09:49 AM
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Jack up the front end, loosen the lock nut on top, screw in the play adjustment bolt until the steering slightly binds when turning full lock side to side, back off until no binding, lock in place.
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Old October 19th, 2013, 10:05 AM
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Thanks for that, might try it.
I just looked at the steering shaft, there is some play in it...so that might be it.
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Old October 19th, 2013, 11:27 AM
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Also check your tie rod ends and wheel bearings.
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Something else that will make you think you have loose steering is a bent track rod/tie rod causing a "toe out" condition. Any bend in that arm will cause it to become "shorter" for toe in/out purposes, and this equates to increasing your toe out since the arm is behind the wheels.
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Something else that will make you think you have loose steering is a bent track rod/tie rod causing a "toe out" condition. Any bend in that arm will cause it to become "shorter" for toe in/out purposes, and this equates to increasing your toe out since the arm is behind the wheels.
Thread resurrection (and there are a ton of these steering threads....)

I've noticed a little bit more wander than I'm used to and noticed a little more play in the steering wheel, and caught a bit of wobble after hitting a pothole at speed. So after reading through a number of threads, including the eye opening death wobble threads, I am in the process of trying to figure this out following a couple of solid threads:

http://landroverforums.com/forum/dis...-wobble-55586/

Death Wobble Eradication - Defender Source

Death wobble, what the bell is going on? Help



I began to give everything a look. Before I even got started, I noticed something I have yet to come across in the plentiful threads and videos on this subject.

If I turn the steering wheel while the car is parked with the wheels on the ground, the "body" of the truck moves first before the wheels fully engage and begin turning. Can this be caused by a bent track/tie rod?

I suppose either way, it may be time to replace.

Thanks!
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Old August 8th, 2016, 10:33 AM
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If I turn the steering wheel while the car is parked with the wheels on the ground, the "body" of the truck moves first before the wheels fully engage and begin turning. Can this be caused by a bent track/tie rod?
Look at the panhard rod bolts and bushings.
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What John said.The panhard rod and associated mounts locates the front axle to the frame. What you describe sounds like play there.
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Look at the panhard rod bolts and bushings.
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What John said.The panhard rod and associated mounts locates the front axle to the frame. What you describe sounds like play there.
John / Doug - much appreciated advice.

Will give those a look and report back.

.....edit

Bolts are there was kinda hoping for the obvious loose bolt, that's not the case. I will need to pull the rod and inspect bushings.



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Same thing here. Panhard rod bolts were loose....
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It is important that all bolts are very tight or the joints will move.
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It is important that all bolts are very tight or the joints will move.
Thanks John - when I get a chance to crawl under there, I'll check 'em.

...stay tuned.
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Thanks John - when I get a chance to crawl under there, I'll check 'em. ...stay tuned.
panhard rod boots are wicked tight...so, here we go

no play in the bushing (which is vertical - up/down) on the side drivers side nearest the steering box

bushing on non-drivers side furthest from the steering box has some play (horizontal - front/rear), I would guess 1/4" to 1/2" or so. hard to see the bushing in the mount, but it doesn't look trashed, it just slides a tiny bit back and forth on the bolt

staying parked until i can't get a second set of hands on the wheel while I'm underneath

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There should be no perceptible play in those bushings. They are very thin. You need to unbolt them to see the bushing itself.
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There should be no perceptible play in those bushings. They are very thin. You need to unbolt them to see the bushing itself.
thanks John - very helpful. I was just using the Google machine to try and figure out if there should be any play there or not.

One piece of the puzzle solved - I fully expect there are more.
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thanks John - very helpful. I was just using the Google machine to try and figure out if there should be any play there or not.

One piece of the puzzle solved - I fully expect there are more.


Let's just say it was the bushings, or complete lack thereof.






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That is crazy!!
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Seriously. Only thing left was the bolt sleeve.


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OH man! Looks like they were poly bushes?
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