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Old January 22nd, 2016, 10:23 AM
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Steering guard question

It's going to be a while before I get the defender to where I want it but in the meantime, a question...

What are some thoughts on the PUma steering protector bar vs a skid plate?

I don't imagine that I will actually need to use either one... And I like how a skid plate looks but the bar is different and not very common.
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Old January 22nd, 2016, 10:36 AM
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The SG through tube is helpful, but for the price....
Terrafirma makes a reasonably priced one. Lucky8 Llc. - Take the road less traveled...

As to the original question the old school pipe guard works fine for protecting the front rod. They have been around for decades, not a new thing for the Puma.
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Old January 22nd, 2016, 01:23 PM
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It's going to be a while before I get the defender to where I want it but in the meantime, a question... What are some thoughts on the PUma steering protector bar vs a skid plate? I don't imagine that I will actually need to use either one... And I like how a skid plate looks but the bar is different and not very common.
I have the bar and like it. Easy install and provides protection without impacting maintenance.
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Old January 22nd, 2016, 03:44 PM
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Terrafirma makes a reasonably priced one. Lucky8 Llc. - Take the road less traveled...

As to the original question the old school pipe guard works fine for protecting the front rod. They have been around for decades, not a new thing for the Puma.
Can you run HD track rod with the TF one?

The SG rubbed with the RTE HD track rod in my DI.
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Old January 22nd, 2016, 03:50 PM
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All I know is it will work with the Terrafirma rods. There is no way to guarantee others without comparing diameters. No real need though with it in place.
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It's going to be a while before I get the defender to where I want it but in the meantime, a question...

What are some thoughts on the PUma steering protector bar vs a skid plate?

I don't imagine that I will actually need to use either one... And I like how a skid plate looks but the bar is different and not very common.
Ha...I could have written the same post word for word

Bar seems be the conventional wisdom route, but I do like the aesthetics of this plow (conveniently 'borrowed' from our friends at RN):



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If you don't wheel a truck on rocks, it's irrelevant. Pick whatever you think looks cutest/prettiest on your truck

Does anyone have experience with the puma steering protector in real wheeling? I know that virtually every plow-style steering guard I've seen (Jefhuf, cgalpin) has been dented/destroyed at Rausch/Cove. I don't know how well Lav's Safarigard protector has fared, but IIRC it seems to have held up better - maybe because it's smaller than the typical plow guard.
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Old January 22nd, 2016, 04:24 PM
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If you don't wheel a truck on rocks, it's irrelevant. Pick whatever you think looks cutest/prettiest on your truck

Does anyone have experience with the puma steering protector in real wheeling?.
Can't agree there. I never wheel on rocks and bent the stock rods pretty much every day I was out. Anything beyond an easy/moderate trail and you will bend them daily.

The one made from pipe has been a stock steering guard forever. It was stock on my 1991 Disco and I never bend the front tie-rod, so it worked well.

The rear one is the easier to bend and the first anyone should try and protect.
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Ha...I could have written the same post word for word

Bar seems be the conventional wisdom route, but I do like the aesthetics of this plow (conveniently 'borrowed' from our friends at RN):



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Can't agree there. I never wheel on rocks and bent the stock rods pretty much every day I was out..
I'm talking about bending the steering guard itself, not the rods. The OP is asking about which steering guard to buy, not whether or not to buy a steering guard or not.
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The steering guard is more of a "fashion statement" than protection...

Like Jeff, I'm not a big wheeler... but I bent the drag link on my 4.6L DI and I had the steering guard. Granted it was not HD.
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The drag link is an issue for sure. I personally have not bent anything but been wheel inning it for a few years.. I do have a LRC steering guard and now AB HD steering rods but I'm careful anyway and never had and issue.. One good rock and sure it will bend (stock)they are made of tissue paper
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Those bars are junk, I've got Southdown steering guards on both trucks and I highly reccomend them. My only gripe is the oil filter and be a little bit of a pain to change
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Go belt and suspenders; I have both. Both get abused, but I haven't spent time un-fing my steering on the trail b/c they stand up to the abuse well, though the guard is perpetually bent no matter how often I beat it back straight with a rubber mallet:
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Looks like they both mount to the same points on the frame... So it's either one or the other, correct?
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Those bars are junk, I've got Southdown steering guards on both trucks and I highly reccomend them. My only gripe is the oil filter and be a little bit of a pain to change
I looked at many and went with the bar. I based the decision off a few points.

1- I wheel my 109 more than the 110 so I looked at cost and probability. $100 NTO bar vs $450 Southdown. If I did bend / break something what is the replacement part cost for the parts destroyed.

2- I may not have the experience of some people on this forum but I have driven 110s off paved roads on four continents. From jungle to Hindu Kush and learned proper route selection mitigated the majority of any issues. I never went out to break my truck. I went out to move from A to B.

3- I feel body / vehicle protection also provides a false sense of security in regards to the "I got this" mentality. People in over armored vehicles tend to have shitty route selection and hit IEDs because they become complacent. If I roll in a Toyota Corolla to do something I am damn careful about routes.

I figured the bar was a compromise.
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