Starting Issues with my D90 2.5td - Defender Source
Defender Source  

Go Back   Defender Source > Defender & Series Technical Discussions > Defender Technical Discussions


Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old March 3rd, 2013, 10:23 PM
couga861900's Avatar
couga861900
Status: Offline
Cougar, WM of Hiram 72
Land Rover Defender 90 2.5td
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: East
Posts: 856
Registry
Angry Starting Issues with my D90 2.5td

Hello, I've been having problems starting my D90 for 2 days and now my rig is simply not starting. It took a while starting 2 days ago and when it did start everything was fine until I tried to restart it. I had to jump the battery and then It started with trouble. My metre gauge read 12v. I then had the alternator rebuilt and fitted on Saturday and took the battery to the shop to have it fully charged. Now my starter is giving me trouble. I have to knock the starter due to sticky brushes in the starter. I've also noticed that there was no current going to the glow plugs. I jumped the glow plugs and the truck is still not turning over. Tomorrow, I will have the starter rebuilt and sought for a new glow plug relay. Am I missing anything? Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2  
Old March 5th, 2013, 10:11 AM
couga861900's Avatar
couga861900
Status: Offline
Cougar, WM of Hiram 72
Land Rover Defender 90 2.5td
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: East
Posts: 856
Registry
Any advise?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old March 5th, 2013, 10:54 AM
tjfslaughter's Avatar
tjfslaughter
Status: Online
thomas
Burbon
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: NorthEast
Posts: 4,563
Have you check your grounds? Do you have a draw on the battery?

Mods please move this to technical section.
__________________
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #4  
Old March 5th, 2013, 01:00 PM
navydevildoc's Avatar
navydevildoc
Status: Offline
Neill Thornton
1984 D90 300 Tdi / 1965 Series IIA
Site Team
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 1,586
Registry
Moved.
__________________
"It doesn't swoop, curve, or look like it's going fast when it's parked. It never looks like it's going fast. It doesn't go fast." - Richard Hammond, BBC Top Gear


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old March 5th, 2013, 03:58 PM
navydevildoc's Avatar
navydevildoc
Status: Offline
Neill Thornton
1984 D90 300 Tdi / 1965 Series IIA
Site Team
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 1,586
Registry
When you are saying "it's starting with trouble" do you mean it's turning over slowly, or that it's turning over fine and just not firing?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old March 6th, 2013, 11:24 PM
couga861900's Avatar
couga861900
Status: Offline
Cougar, WM of Hiram 72
Land Rover Defender 90 2.5td
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: East
Posts: 856
Registry
Well, I've noticed that there's no current going to the glow plugs. I've therefore concluded that the starter is, stressed out.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old March 7th, 2013, 07:19 AM
Capt Milks's Avatar
Capt Milks
Status: Offline
Mike
Defender V-8, Defender 2.25
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 1,798
Is the Defender sitting outside in the cold? A cold start on a diesel can be difficult. Getting the glow plugs fixed is a good start. I would also check each plug as they seem to go bad easily. I would then check the CCA on the battery. It can be reading the correct voltage but the CCA can be down. The Diesels do need a lot of CCA in the cold.
__________________
Land Rover 110
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old March 7th, 2013, 10:13 AM
TDI Guy's Avatar
TDI Guy
Status: Offline
Randy
2015 LR4
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: NJ
Posts: 4,573
Registry
If your battery is not rely strong it will make for a really difficult start
__________________
Legend in My Own Mind.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old March 8th, 2013, 11:23 AM
couga861900's Avatar
couga861900
Status: Offline
Cougar, WM of Hiram 72
Land Rover Defender 90 2.5td
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: East
Posts: 856
Registry
Thanks guys. I'm going to get a new starter and get a cold start relay and make sure that current is going to all the glow plugs. I think I'll need a schematic for the relay and plugs. I will have to fully charge both batteries too.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old March 8th, 2013, 01:07 PM
Ben01
Status: Offline
Ben
Defender
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 1,226
Try a new battery and get an engine block heater.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old March 9th, 2013, 05:03 AM
Uncle Douglas's Avatar
Uncle Douglas
Status: Offline
Doug Crowther
A defender in every driveway-motto
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Gods Country- Central Virginia
Posts: 11,835
Registry
12v at the battery is a problem. You should have 13 plus. Its sounds like you have several problems. Fix the glow plugs and the starter and then figure out the battery or charging issue.
__________________
Good judgement comes from experience,experience comes from bad judgement.

Dividing Creek Imports
Worldwide Vehicle Shipment and Importation Service
Restoration & Modification work


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

410.693.1391


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old March 20th, 2013, 12:20 AM
couga861900's Avatar
couga861900
Status: Offline
Cougar, WM of Hiram 72
Land Rover Defender 90 2.5td
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: East
Posts: 856
Registry
turning on the truck

Quote:
Originally Posted by 130Tdi View Post
12v at the battery is a problem. You should have 13 plus. Its sounds like you have several problems. Fix the glow plugs and the starter and then figure out the battery or charging issue.
Good advice. I change the starter and read other forms. I've just learnt that I was not starting my truck properly. I've had the truck since June it seems that I did warm the glow plugs. I've learned the following:

1- when you put the key in it's in the off position.
2- next turn to the left is another position which I thought warmed the glow plug but it does not
3- a slight turn more before turning the truck (you have to hold the key at the spring-like position) is the warming of the glow plugs. At this position, the glow plug light will light up on the dash
4- count to 15 or 30 and turn the ignition to the on position.
5- there's no relay for the 2.5 or 2.5td model. The glow plugs connects to the ignition switch. The 200tdi and 300tdi have the timer relay on the engine side of the bulkhead.

I was starting the truck w/o using the glow plugs and burning/wearing out my starter.
Now I have a rebuilt alternator, fairly new battery, and a new starter but my volt gauge/metre is only reading 12v. I think I should be at 13v or 14v. Any clues anyone?
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old March 20th, 2013, 12:31 AM
rovertek's Avatar
rovertek
Status: Offline
chris
D130, 2001+99 p38
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Long Island , New York
Posts: 500
ck the alternator output at the positive terminal of the alternator itself and at the battery should be at least 13.5 if not it was rebuilt wrong
__________________
No Mall crawler here
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old March 20th, 2013, 12:39 AM
couga861900's Avatar
couga861900
Status: Offline
Cougar, WM of Hiram 72
Land Rover Defender 90 2.5td
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: East
Posts: 856
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by rovertek View Post
ck the alternator output at the positive terminal of the alternator itself and at the battery should be at least 13.5 if not it was rebuilt wrong
In the morning I will do so. I was wishing/hoping that I would not have to take out the alternator again and walk 1 mile to the rebuilder again. Thanks a lot.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Defender Source > Defender & Series Technical Discussions > Defender Technical Discussions

Tags
90, d90, start, starting

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Advice on buying my first D90 mtbrooks Defender Technical Discussions 7 July 19th, 2005 07:48 PM
D90 won't start! rover4x4 Defender Technical Discussions 32 June 13th, 2005 08:42 AM
'97 D90 external gearbox cooler pipes. kiphartzell Defender Technical Discussions 0 March 29th, 2005 11:51 AM
considering d90 toolman Misc. Chit-Chat 7 March 28th, 2005 02:36 PM
poor gas milage / blown head gasket? got a read diff for a 94 D90? rover_rich_d90 Defender Technical Discussions 7 April 20th, 2004 03:11 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:43 PM.


Copyright