Starter went out? - Defender Source
Defender Source  

Go Back   Defender Source > Defender & Series Technical Discussions > Defender Technical Discussions


Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old January 9th, 2014, 09:18 AM
molonlabedoc
Status: Offline
Vincent
1987 D90
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: KS
Posts: 56
Registry
Starter went out?

Couple of days of really cold weather (for Kansas) and my starter had to work pretty hard to get the truck to turn over. I will be getting a warmer.

Anyways last night I put the key in, turned over and heard a clicking near the dash (close to the relay box) and a electronic wirrring noise.

Should I pull the starter and get it tested?

Thanks for any intel.

Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2  
Old January 9th, 2014, 09:21 AM
rdavisinva's Avatar
rdavisinva
Status: Offline
Robert Davis
N/A
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 6,796
Sounds like a weak battery or failing ground.
__________________
RDavisinVA

Uncle "Richard" Douglas has a Land Rover with big wheels that never gets stuck... until he breaks something so it won't go. Uncle Douglas always breaks something. - Anna Crowther at the Conclave 2012 (AKA Carburetor Neck)

"What's with this death wobble, Uncle Douglas, I can't keep it in 1 lane?"
UD: "Just Power through it man!"
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old January 9th, 2014, 09:22 AM
Uncle Douglas's Avatar
Uncle Douglas
Status: Offline
Doug Crowther
A defender in every driveway-motto
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Gods Country- Central Virginia
Posts: 11,837
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by rdavisinva View Post
Sounds like a weak battery or failing ground.
both of which burn up starters
__________________
Good judgement comes from experience,experience comes from bad judgement.

Dividing Creek Imports
Worldwide Vehicle Shipment and Importation Service
Restoration & Modification work


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

410.693.1391


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #4  
Old January 9th, 2014, 12:14 PM
ini88's Avatar
ini88
Status: Offline
Daniel Marcello
Alloy+Grit Creative Director
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 2,816
That clicking near the dash is your solenoid not having enough juice to run the starter. Change your battery or jump start it.
__________________
1955 Series I
1975 FC101 Vampire
1994 Defender 90 #916
1967 Lancia Fulvia
1974 Alfa Romeo GTV
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old January 9th, 2014, 01:22 PM
Viton's Avatar
Viton
Status: Offline
Deaf Ember
Smart 4x4
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: La
Posts: 1,231
Get a Kat's battery (electric) warmer blanket. Check your starter connections and bat(-) connection to frame. Cleaned your bat terminals lately ?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old January 9th, 2014, 02:58 PM
molonlabedoc
Status: Offline
Vincent
1987 D90
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: KS
Posts: 56
Registry
Thanks for the help guys, I know its prob some obvious stuff but I will pay it forward
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old January 9th, 2014, 03:38 PM
molonlabedoc
Status: Offline
Vincent
1987 D90
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: KS
Posts: 56
Registry
I have a double battery set up (bosch). I have never charged a system like this, is there a trick to it?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old January 9th, 2014, 07:46 PM
Antichrist's Avatar
Antichrist
Status: Offline
Tom Rowe
Defender/Disco/Series/MoD
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA USA
Posts: 1,280
It all depends on how they are wired.
__________________
Tom Rowe
Atlanta, GA

Four wheel drive allows you to get stuck
in places even more inaccessible.

62 88 Regular
67 109 6cyl NADA x2
74 Lightweight - The Antichrist
95 DI 5-speed
95 D90 5-speed
97 D1 Automatic
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old January 13th, 2014, 04:48 PM
molonlabedoc
Status: Offline
Vincent
1987 D90
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: KS
Posts: 56
Registry
So I was looking in my battery box under seat. There is a random unbolted blue wire. Is that the ground for starter?
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	20140113_154101.jpg
Views:	76
Size:	87.5 KB
ID:	87824   Click image for larger version

Name:	1389649650148.jpg
Views:	65
Size:	48.8 KB
ID:	87825  

Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old January 13th, 2014, 04:54 PM
Overlander's Avatar
Overlander
Status: Offline
mark kellgren
in between D's in an 04 D2
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 6,531
Registry
Starter is grounded through mating w engine block. Make sure your block ground strap is in good condition. And that blue wire is ghetto. Get rid of it.
__________________
Mark Kellgren
KM4BOR

ISIL and al qaeda can go F*ck themselves...
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old January 13th, 2014, 05:35 PM
rdavisinva's Avatar
rdavisinva
Status: Offline
Robert Davis
N/A
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 6,796
Quote:
Originally Posted by molonlabedoc View Post
So I was looking in my battery box under seat. There is a random unbolted blue wire. Is that the ground for starter?
If you are asking these sort of questions, you need to take a basic auto mechanics course at the local community college or find a way to educate yourself on the subject.

In the mean time find a local who knows about cars and try hooking up jumper cables to start your rig (commonly known as jumping).

Then buy yourself some Land Rover manuals and some tools if you don't already have them and start reading and doing a few small jobs like hooking up jumper cables.

If wires are disconnected, don't connect them.

Hope this helps.
__________________
RDavisinVA

Uncle "Richard" Douglas has a Land Rover with big wheels that never gets stuck... until he breaks something so it won't go. Uncle Douglas always breaks something. - Anna Crowther at the Conclave 2012 (AKA Carburetor Neck)

"What's with this death wobble, Uncle Douglas, I can't keep it in 1 lane?"
UD: "Just Power through it man!"
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old January 19th, 2014, 06:30 PM
molonlabedoc
Status: Offline
Vincent
1987 D90
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: KS
Posts: 56
Registry
So the batteries are good, The starter was bad, replaced it. BUT, it still makes an electrical whirrr noise and nothing turns over after replacing old starter.

What should I look for next? Thanks for any ideas.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old January 19th, 2014, 07:51 PM
sonoronos's Avatar
sonoronos
Status: Online
Ed
None
Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 5,533
Registry
I think you need to clarify what you mean by "electric whirr".

Is the engine turning over? Or is the starter spinning but not engaging the flywheel?
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old January 19th, 2014, 09:57 PM
ArmyRover's Avatar
ArmyRover
Status: Offline
Bill Ski
83 110 "Frankenstein"
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Augusta, GA
Posts: 1,617
Mine crapped the bed yesterday as well. You can hear the starter motor spin up but the solenoid isn't engaging the gear, to crank the motor over.

Mine sounds like this one at the 3:30 mark in the video.



I know cheesy video.
__________________
"If you can't stand behind our Soldiers, than by all means feel free to stand in front of them"

Unknown Author


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
716-898-8153
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old January 19th, 2014, 10:37 PM
sonoronos's Avatar
sonoronos
Status: Online
Ed
None
Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 5,533
Registry
the solenoid on a starter does not engage the flywheel. What engages the flywheel is a device internal to the starter that pushes the starter drive gear out.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old January 19th, 2014, 11:37 PM
molonlabedoc
Status: Offline
Vincent
1987 D90
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: KS
Posts: 56
Registry
Turns out to be a bad wire from the battery. Fires right up.

Thanks for the info everyone.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Defender Source > Defender & Series Technical Discussions > Defender Technical Discussions

Tags
start, starter

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Starter issues on my D90 Rover- Girl Defender Technical Discussions 13 February 13th, 2010 10:59 PM
Compatible starter motor question? MiniGuy Defender Technical Discussions 14 January 3rd, 2006 10:58 PM
starter bolts jstrong98 Defender Technical Discussions 0 November 1st, 2005 11:14 AM
Starter solution for TD D90? torque Defender Technical Discussions 0 April 30th, 2005 11:10 PM
Fun new problem: starter circuit issue jaherring Defender Technical Discussions 1 September 12th, 2004 03:07 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:23 AM.


Copyright