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Old April 9th, 2014, 09:27 AM
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My starter finally went. Need new reliable one. Recommendations? britishstarters on top of my list. Also has anyone solved the heatshield issue? My old heatshield long ago disintegrated but seems to be none out there. The exhaust manifolds are very close to starter.
Thanks for any intel
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Old April 9th, 2014, 09:51 AM
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http://eurorestorations.com/Euro_Res...t_Shields.html

Looks like you could make your own ... in fact we said we'd try it about a year ago!
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Old April 9th, 2014, 09:53 AM
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http://eurorestorations.com/Euro_Res...t_Shields.html

Looks like you could make your own ... in fact we said we'd try it about a year ago!
$200 almost worth just buying new starter!

What about wrapping it with heat tape? I'd build one if had old one to go off. All that was left of mine was a bracket
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Old April 9th, 2014, 09:55 AM
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maybe someone can post some dimensions ... ???
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Old April 9th, 2014, 10:08 AM
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I have the magnetti marelli one and it's been great so far. Check with Mike M on here out in PA - he probably has a few on his stash shelf.
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Old April 9th, 2014, 10:22 AM
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I have the magnetti marelli one and it's been great so far. Check with Mike M on here out in PA - he probably has a few on his stash shelf.
Hey Josh.... is that european parts llc? do you still have a heatshield on yours?

I can ring him....
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Old April 9th, 2014, 10:33 AM
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Yeah that's him. I still have a heat shield on mine. James Pierce was making complete sets of heat shields a couple of years ago - may want to reach out to him.

http://eurorestorations.com/Euro_Res...t_Shields.html
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Old April 9th, 2014, 10:40 AM
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Yeah that's him. I still have a heat shield on mine. James Pierce was making complete sets of heat shields a couple of years ago - may want to reach out to him.

http://eurorestorations.com/Euro_Res...t_Shields.html
Yea thats the one Jason mentioned.... $200!
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Old April 9th, 2014, 10:43 AM
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haha woops. I didn't even look at his link - I had figured he sent you a link to a starter.
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Old April 9th, 2014, 10:57 AM
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haha woops. I didn't even look at his link - I had figured he sent you a link to a starter.


Sent them an email see if they sell just starter shield..... not looking to drop 200 on all heatshields.....
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Old April 9th, 2014, 12:27 PM
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What's this "heat shield" you speak of???
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Old April 9th, 2014, 02:09 PM
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Get a green mean starter! Way to go!
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Just go to a pull-your-parts place. Pick one off a disco. $20. Or, depending on what is wrong, maybe just get a $10 brush kit.
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Old April 9th, 2014, 04:29 PM
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What's this "heat shield" you speak of???
NAS trucks have a small flimsy heatshield as they're very close to exhaust manifold..... shockingly no one has reproduced them.

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Just go to a pull-your-parts place. Pick one off a disco. $20. Or, depending on what is wrong, maybe just get a $10 brush kit.

Tempting but considering how much of a pain in the ass they are to remove I'd like to not have to revisit its removal any time soon.
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It's like a 20-30 minute job to swap the starter...really not that bad.

That said, when I did my clutch I got a new/aftermarket starter "since I was in there". Ironically, the new starter went bad within 1000 miles. So I swapped in the prior used unit. It was replaced under warranty, but the replacement unit just went in my box of spares since the original was still doing the trick.

That said...if anyone knows of a robust unit to replace, I'm all ears!
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Old April 10th, 2014, 11:22 PM
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The heat shield that I make for the passenger side is the one between the cat and the floor board. I'm trying to remember what the starter heat shield looks like. I remember one on the back of the motor mount bracket in front of the starter but it is metal and unless someone removed it they are not prone to falling apart like the asbestos shields above the cat, clutch slave, and speedo cable... I'll have to look tomorrow.
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The heat shield that I make for the passenger side is the one between the cat and the floor board. I'm trying to remember what the starter heat shield looks like. I remember one on the back of the motor mount bracket in front of the starter but it is metal and unless someone removed it they are not prone to falling apart like the asbestos shields above the cat, clutch slave, and speedo cable... I'll have to look tomorrow.

The NAS starter shield is an asbestos rectangle that is fastened to one of starter bolts. Not an impressive shield by no means. The ROW I believe are the cone shaped metal shields. I mistakingly bought one years ago figuring were all the same.

Honestly James, looking again at your products, it sort of looks like one of the smaller shield you have on your site. If anyone can confirm as I no longer have one.
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It's like a 20-30 minute job to swap the starter...really not that bad.

That said, when I did my clutch I got a new/aftermarket starter "since I was in there". Ironically, the new starter went bad within 1000 miles. So I swapped in the prior used unit. It was replaced under warranty, but the replacement unit just went in my box of spares since the original was still doing the trick.

That said...if anyone knows of a robust unit to replace, I'm all ears!
I bought my D90 new in October of 1995 and I believe it was in 1997 that I replaced the stock starter with the Mean Green starter. I still have the D90 and the Mean Green starter is still working flawlessly.

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