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Old October 27th, 2010, 08:30 PM
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While crossing a big wash today on a trail, I wrecked both rear cones. The springs came all the way out past the cones, and when they tried to reseat they destroyed the cones on both sides. It was not at the same time, but it was one after the other on the same obstacle. This has made me an official cone hater. I am now looking to replace with retainers. Where can I find these? I have seen the ones on EE, but wondering if there are other options. Has anyone else experienced this with dislocation cones?
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Old October 27th, 2010, 08:39 PM
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Old October 27th, 2010, 08:41 PM
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Old October 27th, 2010, 10:03 PM
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Old October 27th, 2010, 10:32 PM
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I was happy with the EE ones also.
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Old October 28th, 2010, 05:13 AM
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I bought an X-spring for my current project, but haven't gotten far enough to try it. www.x-eng.co.uk
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Old October 28th, 2010, 08:36 AM
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DIY- retainers

DIY: simple to make the flat bar type, costs about $12 and 30 minutes of your time, welder needed to weld nuts to bar. Installing them can be a pain…10 minutes one side 45 on the other, smaller hands with long fingers helpful!

Cones are great if you have limiting straps...I have vehicles with both types, cones, retainers, both work well, however, more travel with cones.

-3/8" x 3/4" +/- x width of spring + 1/2" (1/4" sticks out each side & fits in the upper spring seat) scrap bar. Prime & paint.

-Suitable grade 8 bolts- 2 per side, I think 2 5/8” long but need to check. Length is critical, long enough to start into the nut, short enough to fit in spring perch. (flat bars go on top of spring perch and between one spring coil, pinch together when tightened).

-Trick: Welding the nuts to one side of the bar is a must…top bar. Bolts are threaded upwards from inside the spring toward the spring perch. There is not enough room to wrestle with the spring/bar and also hold a lose nut on top.

-I used lock-tight and have only had one bolt come lose over time.
- jack up one side at a time; tire on, just high enough so that the spring starts to be lose from the perch. (make sure brake lines are long enough). Insert bar under 1st coil and thread bolts into second bar on top of perch. Tighten each bolt together. I used a long ratchet extension inside the spring to allow for my fingers to fit between the wider coil space towards the bottom. (spring coils; tighter coils towards the top). Once the bolts are threaded, tighten gradually while lowering the jack to compress the spring.
-cocktail hour...one more DIY off the list...
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Old October 29th, 2010, 01:52 AM
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I have the EE ones and have been happy with them as well.
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Old October 29th, 2010, 07:29 AM
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I have an old set Rockware cones and I have tried but have not been able to dislocate them, even on a lift with 35" tires well below the rock sliders. I think that they are slightly longer than other versions. Personally, I like cones, so that I can hear what is going on with the rear of the truck.
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The PC on the EE ones lasts about a year in northern states. Better getting them bare and using good paint.
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I'm installing new springs and shocks all around and I'd like to replace spring mounts as well. Does the EE ones rust? Does anyone make galvanized spring mounts? How come the EE spring mounts are only for the rear?
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I bought an X-spring for my current project, but haven't gotten far enough to try it. www.x-eng.co.uk

Works great, but they will really start working if you get the whole x flex kit. Justin wouldnt let me keep going up the ramp I was hurting his feelings. Later he tried to break the ramp so he didnt have to keep having trophies made for me every year.
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double that on the rockware cones- i have never been able to articulate enough to force the spring outside the cone(trust me- i've tried). what cones are installed on your rig?
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Works great, but they will really start working if you get the whole x flex kit. Justin wouldnt let me keep going up the ramp I was hurting his feelings. Later he tried to break the ramp so he didnt have to keep having trophies made for me every year.
Thats enough travel to "win"? And they give out trophies?
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Thats enough travel to "win"? And they give out trophies?
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