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Old January 21st, 2008, 11:05 PM
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I am contemplating taking a trip south of the border with my wife for a month maybe in May. Anyone have any experience with this sort of thing. Info I am looking for is:

Driving a D90 for the trip
To carry a hand gun or not and how to arrange this with the officials
Repairs of the 90 if needed
Supplies to bring
Danger zones vs safe zones
Do I carry cash (how much) or not
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Old January 21st, 2008, 11:27 PM
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Mike,

If you don't get what you need here, post this on the www.SCLR.org forum. There are several members that have lots of experience in Mexico.
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Old January 22nd, 2008, 12:14 AM
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I am contemplating taking a trip south of the border with my wife for a month maybe in May. Anyone have any experience with this sort of thing. Info I am looking for is:

Driving a D90 for the trip
To carry a hand gun or not and how to arrange this with the officials
Repairs of the 90 if needed
Supplies to bring
Danger zones vs safe zones
Do I carry cash (how much) or not
It all depends on where you want to go. I go to the border towns for work every 2 weeks or so (TJ, Mexicali).

There is a some trouble to be found, especially near the border right now. More inland is usually okay. Whether or not to carry a gun is a personal decision. Either way you go, the "officials" don't need to know about it.
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Old January 22nd, 2008, 02:56 AM
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Carrying a gun illegally in Mexico can transport you to a magical world of hurt.

I go often for Land Rover pursuits and for hunting.
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Old January 22nd, 2008, 01:30 PM
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Carrying a gun illegally in Mexico can transport you to a magical world of hurt.

I go often for Land Rover pursuits and for hunting.
Amen to that! My Dad I have gone goose hunting down in El Tigre on Lago Boquilla. Granted, this was 10+ years ago or so, but we had to go through MAJOR hoops to take our guns down there.

1) At the US border, you have to tell the border agents that you're taking guns over there, so that you can bring them back.
2) The Mexican Commandant has to "inspect" your guns. This involved leaving them with them overnight, then picking them back up the next day. All this has to happen before you even head over for your trip.
3) When going on your trip, you have to declare the guns to the border agents (US and Mexico) with the accompanying paperwork. Oh yeah, it used to be that you could only bring 1 or 2 boxes of shells per gun. That may have changed.

You should have seen the Mexican border guards eyes light up when we whipped out our guns to declare them. They thought it was going to be Christmas for them until we flashed the right paperwork. They were quite dejected.

So it IS possible with the right paperwork. That said, I've traveled all over Mexico and never felt like I needed a gun (unless it was to shoot birds).
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Old January 22nd, 2008, 10:05 PM
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I did one of those hunting trips were we brought our own guns. We had all the correct paperwork and we still had to bribe the crooked bastards. I didn't think we were going to get out of one of the check points with our guns at all until our mexican guide worked his majik.
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Old January 22nd, 2008, 10:11 PM
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My opinion, bring no gun, no cash and take off the bling of the truck in case you have some.
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Old January 22nd, 2008, 11:10 PM
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You will need additional insurance for your ride to be covered. I had no search issues and would reccomend bringing a hand gun. Have fun.
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 12:01 AM
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Old January 24th, 2008, 06:39 PM
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Never NEVER bring a gun in to Mexico with out a hunting permit. If you get caught you will go to jail. The military searches regularly even on remote dirt roads sometimes. They are nice and professional, but if you get caught with guns or drugs your are up the creek.

I always bring spares when going in to mexico. I mainly travel in remote parts so I could not source parts. The regular failure parts are recommended. If you have a V8 bring electrical bits. But it depends on what kind of shape your truck is in. I bring a bunch of spares but we are doing trial runs for our big trip south.

In my experiences (12 driving trips in the last 6 years) I have never had a major issue. Over new years my girlfriend and I did get "ambushed" by a group of military special forces in a helicopter. We were on a dirt raod just north of San Felipe after we crossed the boarder. We pulled off for a quick fix... while I was under the truck I heard a chopper got out and they were landing 30 feet away, 6-8 guys fan out in a pattern guns blazing... one with oakley glasses and body armor approaches me and says in perfect english "what language do you speak"... very pro... they were obviously looking for someone else but I almost Sh*t my pants. they asked us some questions then piled back in the chopper and took off...one of the craziest things that has ever happened to me.

I have only had weird experiences near the boarder, I really like crossing in Mexicali better for Baja.... I always try to get south ASAP. the the military are very nice and as long as you follow the rules you will be OK... Have your papers in order, be nice, learn some spanish and DO NOT BRING A GUN!!!!

If you want some more info feel free to PM me with your phone number...

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Old January 25th, 2008, 11:27 AM
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Thanks Steve

I may just give you a call in the future.
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Old January 25th, 2008, 11:59 AM
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I have been south many time, and the rule of thumb, to reiterate, is NEVER bring a gun over the border. If you are caught, you will be Pedro's beeyoch and Lord of the Flies for quite some time.

Bring a big bat instead. Besides, you will have extra room for that Yosemitty Sam pinata I know you will end up buying on your trip back.
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As far as the local police, just remember, eveything is negotiable.

As for the gun, what's the name of that movie where the American gets caught in Turkey trying to smuggle drugs through the airport?
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Old February 5th, 2008, 10:35 AM
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As far as the local police, just remember, eveything is negotiable.

As for the gun, what's the name of that movie where the American gets caught in Turkey trying to smuggle drugs through the airport?

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Old February 5th, 2008, 12:38 PM
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I am leaving tomorrow for Baja so I will let you know how it goes. Riding my dirtbike from Tecate to Gonzaga Bay, south on the sea of cortez, north on the pacific. I'm going with another guy and my girlfriend. The girlfirend is petrified. From the people I spoke to in building my trip told me that the only real issue (and i'm sure this is his personal opinion but it was shared by many) was stay away from TJ, Ensenada and the road in between. That road is where most of the hijackings occur. Avoid travelling at night. 3 Jap dirtbikes are very different from a Defender down there so the rules might be different. As for guns, I wouldn't bring em. Unless you live in one of those states that allows fully automatic weapons, If you're going to get robbed they're probably going to have more guns and man power than you do anyway. If you are leaving soon, let me know. Maybe we'll run into each other.
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Old February 5th, 2008, 11:54 PM
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Stephan, sounds like a good trip. I'll be interested in hearing how it goes. I'm not planning on going until May.
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If all goes well I will hopefully be able to post pictures when I return
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In early June 2008, he is guiding our overland expedition: Florida>Mexico>Veracruz>Chetumal>Tikal>Guatamala>B elize>etc...

My family of 4 is traveling in our NAS 110, and Peter is taking his Camel Trophy truck, in which he's completed a RTW trip! He's the real deal when it comes to trip planning!

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Anil,

How often do you run the F1 car? Is that an old Benetton-Ford?
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I thought I would post some photos from my Baja trip. I know it's not Land Rover related but I can certainly tell you guys what roads are good for wheeling. Every mile on the bike I thought about how that mile would be different in the d-90. Happy to report that the locals were amazing, not one issue with crime. However, finding a place to sleep and gas is another story..

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