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Old October 13th, 2011, 12:40 AM
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Soft top ExMoor / Safety Devices

I searched but didn't find anything. Sorry if covered.

Has anyone used this for the soft top conversion??

Safety devices cage made for Exmoor XS hood (top).

Will this work on our NAS trucks??

Maybe Mike has some insight from his Safety Devices connection.

Here is a link: http://www.exmoortrim.co.uk/catalogu....html?sef=hcfp

Here is another link, this one to safety devices site: http://www.safetydevices.com/media/i...l#!prettyPhoto
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Old October 14th, 2011, 10:38 PM
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Can't believe with all the brain power on D-90 no one knows about this?!?!? WTF!!!
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Old October 14th, 2011, 10:48 PM
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I think you're bringing two different subsets of the Defender world together with your questions. NAS vs. UK (or ROW) where there are very few soft top D90s.

Maybe stop by http://forums.lr4x4.com/ and see if anyone there knows about the Exmoor top, mostly UK guys on that board.

My guess is that you could probably configure the Exmoor top/cage, but it may wind up being a colossal PITA and costing as much as finding a NAS cage and buying a Badger top.
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Old October 15th, 2011, 12:39 AM
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For reference you are talking about this I assume

http://www.safetydevices.com/expedit...3-present/323/

------ Follow up post added October 14th, 2011 10:03 PM ------

Cage doesnt look like it ties in to the frame
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Old October 15th, 2011, 01:17 AM
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I thought that Horsey was the only one who wanted to convert to ST.

Please, sell me your SW roof and door.
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Just FYI, this cage is mainly for converting a Euro 90 hard top to a soft top or replacing the Euro soft top hoop set with something a little stronger.
It is frame mounted in the front, but not the back.

NAS soft tops do not fit it (its a little smaller overall).
Exmoor is making a top that fits it.

It won't really help NAS 90 owners at all, but it can be helpful for converting a Euro 90 to soft top.
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Old October 19th, 2011, 11:12 AM
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I think John is looking for a way to make his sw a st and was wondering if this cage was decent as a nas st is hard to find
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Old October 19th, 2011, 10:45 PM
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Thanks Mike.

IF people wanted to, could they install this SD cage onto the NAS D90?? Are the NAS D90 and Euro spec that different for installation of this??

This is also assuming as you pointed out you would have to get Exmoor top.
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Technically you could put it on a NAS 90, but it would be a major downgrade strength wise compared to the Nas st cage. There is no way to incorporate an a pillar roll bar, and it is only frame mounted in the front. It is basically just a heavier duty hoopset.
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Old October 19th, 2011, 11:08 PM
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Maybe I'm rationalizing but don't really know what the "real world" experience is regarding the roll cages. Most of the 90's in the ROW run without cages yet I don't hear or see a lot of problems because of this. There are a "few" pics of rolled trucks with squashed roofs and windscreens but they actually don't look too bad.

No doubt having a cage HAS to be better than no cage but don't know to what degree, low speed, moderate, high speed??

When you couple this with the fact that getting ST parts are difficult and that what is out there IS aging, I'm looking to other options.

Macker: Is this a "bolt up" proposition???
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Old October 20th, 2011, 12:01 AM
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This picture comes to mind... courtesy of the ECR site. I think that as a general rule, there are way fewer soft top vs hard top d90's in the UK, so there seems to be few options for a "real" soft top cage. Also, the amount of aftermarket roll cages available in the UK for hard top/truck cab 90's should be a testament to the lack of strength of the thin aluminium land rover roofs. Maybe some of the rollover pictures without a cage don't look "too" bad, but there is always a chance of it being much worse. Plus, when you're running without a hardtop, i.e. a soft top or topless, there is no "roof", just whatever roll bar you have over your head, so it better have the strength to save your life. As far as the bolt in job goes, I have no experience with this "cage" so I couldn't tell you, but I don't see why it wouldn't work on a NAS 90. I'm not familiar with how the b pillar ties into the frame, maybe Mike or someone can chime in on that.

If you were looking for a permanent soft top solution and didn't want to buy a NAS ST cage, and If you liked the XS soft top, you could have someone replicate the dimensions of the safety devices xs canopy support with a quality frame mounted roll cage. It would have to be a full internal cage though. You could also look at an All Wheel Trim soft top like the SV style mohair, that incorporates the external a-hoop roll bar, so it would be a part internal/part external cage like the NAS St hood. Or yet another option would be to have someone replicate the dimensions of the NAS ST cage so you can run a badger top (or similar) and cover the roll cage with padding that matched the size of the rubber cage pads. There are lots of options but personally I wouldn't settle for a cage that may or may not save the occupants in the event of a rollover.

I always liked the look of the cage in the second picture, not sure who made it, but it looks good. As long as the A, B, and C pillars are all tied to the frame, then something like this could be a good option.
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They make a ROW cage with the A pillar

http://www.safetydevices.com/expedit...3-present/294/

Badger lists a top for ROW 90's
http://www.badgercoachworks.com/index_files/Page563.htm
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