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Old October 14th, 2012, 07:05 PM
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Damn that engine is clean! congrats. sounds great.
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Old October 14th, 2012, 10:19 PM
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Sounds great! Running smoother than mine but I have yet to fine tune it. What's your idle set at?
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Old October 15th, 2012, 12:29 AM
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Sounds great! Running smoother than mine but I have yet to fine tune it. What's your idle set at?
No clue on my idle.
Fine tuning ? where should we start ? let's do it.
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Old October 15th, 2012, 08:58 AM
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Sounds like you've already adjusted it since you posted on the Advanced timing 300tdi thread. No need to fiddle with it anymore, runs like a champ if you ask me.

Idle should be set around 720 RPMs if I remember correctly. Sounds like yours is higher than that but i could be wrong. Get a laser tachometer and measure the crank shaft pulley.

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Old October 15th, 2012, 10:38 AM
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how did you do that without the crank pulley in place?


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Old October 15th, 2012, 10:48 AM
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how did you do that without the crank pulley in place?
No ancillaries belt. I ran a loop with a 3/8 clear hose on the oil cooler lines, filled the block with coolant and plugged engine coolant inlet and outlet. I did put the intercooler in place, don't want no dust inside my engine
Very short run, less than 30 seconds, but made me feel great.

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Sounds like you've already adjusted it since you posted on the Advanced timing 300tdi thread.
Not at all, just the regular pins method. I do think we, Tdi users, should find a simple way to tweak the timing without buying special tools. I like the smaller pin method but we have to put some numbers on it imho.

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Idle should be set around 720 RPMs if I remember correctly. Sounds like yours is higher than that but i could be wrong. Get a laser tachometer and measure the crank shaft pulley.
Agree, sounds a little fast to me also. I think I have a tachometer connection on my Iskra alternator, time to spend some $ on a vdo unit I guess.
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My setup to put 11 p x f on the timing belt tensioner. According to comparison of this method with the click type torque wrench (distance between pulley and a fixed point in the line of pulley movement), the click wrench will lift the pulley 60 thousand of an inch more, about 1 mm and a half, I don't know how many pounds it represent.
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Shouldn't you use a bar type torque wrench? I didn't think it would work well with a click type.
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I'm not using the click torque wrench, I'm putting 11 pounds of weight at 1 foot distance. I did compare my results with the click torque wrench method and it's not quite accurate, even if you set it at lower value (did the comparison with wrench at 10 also).
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Shouldn't you use a bar type torque wrench? I didn't think it would work well with a click type.

Once you do a few of them, you can judge the tension with your hand with just a plain socket bar on it.
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What i meant was, what was hiding the crankshaft timing belt pulley in place?


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No ancillaries belt. .
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What i meant was, what was hiding the crankshaft timing belt pulley in place?
The crankshaft pulley bolt and big ass washer.
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Not trying to beat a dead horse but doesn't that leave like 2" or more of crank between the washer and the timing cog? And wormy the cog then be able to travel forward and back on the crank? I mean I know you only ran it for 30 seconds but I was concerned about that so I put the big pulley on. Even though it is kind of a hassle.
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Indeed, the crankshaft pulley was not under horizontal pressure, but no transversal movement as far as i know,
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