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Old January 14th, 2014, 12:12 PM
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Freelanders- never ever.
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Old January 14th, 2014, 12:28 PM
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Expected that answer lol. And discovery?
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Old January 14th, 2014, 12:29 PM
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Freelanders- never ever.
Keep in mind, he is in Malta, so a LR2 is a Freelander 2 and an LR3 is a Discovery.
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Old January 14th, 2014, 12:30 PM
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------ Follow up post added January 14th, 2014 12:31 PM ------

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Keep in mind, he is in Malta, so a LR2 is a Freelander 2 and an LR3 is a Discovery.
ahhh

well the original freelander was an absolute SUCCESS with the diesel engine, it was the NAS 6cyl or vatever that was a joke. They were really popular.

The LR2 or Freelander 2 is a great vehicle, I'd highly recommend it. Very reliable, but not really a "rover". It's the gateway Rover.

Lr3 would be great too, but relies heavily on electronics that can get pricey to fix if they go wrong.
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Old January 14th, 2014, 12:39 PM
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This is the freelander I'm asking about:

And here's the discovery:


Are we talking about the same cars?

This is what I'd like:
http://maltapark.com/item.aspx?ItemID=2981234
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Old January 14th, 2014, 12:59 PM
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Matthew,

Greetings,

Please get in touch with Mr. Charles Ellul (ropeaccess@onvol.net).

He is born/raised/lives in Malta and he knows all things Land Rover. He's owned many Series and Defenders over his years and used them back in the day to travel all over North Africa. He has certainly accumulated his share of stories revolving around broken down Land Rovers, North African sand, business end of rifles and the like -- a true adventure character and gentleman...

We had the privilege of 4x4ing in the Alps together this July --- He drove up his LR 4 from Malta and joined me in my Defender.

He's your man. He can answer all of your questions.

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Old January 14th, 2014, 01:08 PM
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The world is small lol. Thanks Raymond, will keep that in mind.
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Old January 14th, 2014, 01:28 PM
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Some of my arguments for getting a Defender are:

Good aftermarket parts availability, center diff lock, full time AWD, low/hi range transfer case, good range of front and rear differential locks, good availability of parts in general, body panels, easy to work on yourself, styling, heritage.

If you don't need any of those, then I would reconsider.
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Old January 14th, 2014, 01:39 PM
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Some of my arguments for getting a Defender are:

Good aftermarket parts availability, center diff lock, full time AWD, low/hi range transfer case, good range of front and rear differential locks, good availability of parts in general, body panels, easy to work on yourself, styling, heritage.

If you don't need any of those, then I would reconsider.
I'm mostly interested in it's size, looks and the feeling while driving it.

Don't need full time AWD as I'd only use it on the road. But we don't have motorways here so, don't need to go fast.

No idea what differential (had to do a google search) locks are

Availability of parts is good nonetheless as it wont cost a fortune to find anything you need.
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Old January 14th, 2014, 01:57 PM
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I sense you are very new to the LR world and anxious to learn as much as possible.

Suggest you subscribe to a LR magazine, there are several, and also hang out with the local Land Rover club.
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Old January 14th, 2014, 02:03 PM
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Yes I am, very new. Never owned one. And been in only a couple all my life. But I've always wished I bought one, but the constant mentioning of the need of work kept me from doing anything about it.

I mainly want to know whether it's actually that bad. Would driving such a car (bought in relatively good condition) on tarmac roughly 1 and a half hours a day kill it? No off roading whatsoever.
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Old January 14th, 2014, 02:17 PM
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My disco was a mall,queen when I got it...60k miles. Since I have owned it, it has served as a dd, been off road, and general around the farm cow hearder. Short of my 110, if I had to drive to the west coast...Emma is first out of the box. Oh...and just topped 260 k miles.
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Old January 14th, 2014, 02:26 PM
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Very encouraging
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Old January 14th, 2014, 02:52 PM
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Prior to taking my 1986 110 of the road to swap the chassis / restore it I daily drove it for over 2 years. During that time I would drive it 35 minutes each way 4 times a week. On top of that one year I drove it 3 times a week doing mostly high ways for a little over 2.5 hours round trip and the other year I was doing 3 times a week at around 1.5 hours round trip. The only real problems I had during that time was the alternator died and the hub bearings needed to be replaced. And keep in mind this was with a 25+ year old vehicle

Edit: +1 on staying away from the petrol freelander, we had a first gen one and it was decent until the engine died with relatively low miles. A turbo diesel one would be be pretty cool though
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Old January 14th, 2014, 02:53 PM
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This is the freelander I'm asking about:

And here's the discovery:


Are we talking about the same cars?

This is what I'd like:
http://maltapark.com/item.aspx?ItemID=2981234
As long as they are diesel you are probably okay.

Stay away from a petrol automatic Freelander.
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Old January 14th, 2014, 02:56 PM
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Getting a lot of positive feedback. I like it (my bank account won't). Thanks a lot.

Will start having a look around and see what I find. Hope I'd be posting pics soon

@Jymmiejamz, yeah everyone told me to stay away from petrol models.

Keep the thoughts coming in though, you can never learn enough. And others might find it useful too
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Old January 14th, 2014, 07:42 PM
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I know some people that might help, but haven't seen them in ages, will give that ago.
It sounds like you also have a contact on Malta. Utilize all your resources!

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The one in your picture looks great for me. As I'd like one with seats in the back too. That's not an estate right?
Mine is a RHD Ninety station wagon and yes, it has seats (4) in the back. Land Rover also made a One Ten station wagon, which is basically the same as the Ninety except with another row of forward-facing seats.

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7 times to Malta from the US? Wow.
I lived in the UK until I was 23, and visited Malta from there. Will you paint eyes on the front of your Defender?
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Old January 15th, 2014, 01:38 AM
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Paint eyes? Do people normally do that?
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Malta: home to some of the most bitchin' military Defenders I've ever seen and a big inspiration for me buying my ex-MOD.





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Old January 15th, 2014, 04:49 AM
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I'm asking about this one:

http://pierreciappara.com/index.php?...=showEO&id=287

The shape is just what I need. 7 seater (has a mistake there I think as it says 5). Asking around 12K Euro. Using old road tax pricing (there was a cut off point). So it's cheaper than some others with the same engines.

If I visit the showroom, should I ask any specific questions? Might take a friend who's owned a couple of defenders with me if I decide to go. Have to think about my budget first, as I'm not REALLY thinking about it.

What do you guys think of it?
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