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Old November 10th, 2009, 09:10 PM
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Shorter springs?

Ok I'm not trying to lower my truck and put spinners on it, but was wondering if there is such a thing as a shorter springs to lower a defender?

I would like my trailer to ride lower and the springs I have right now give it a lean anyway so I figured I'd see if there were any options out there other than maybe cutting some down.
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Old November 10th, 2009, 11:22 PM
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How much lower do you want/need it to be?
Are those stock springs? How high are they (unloaded)?

A few ideas:
- put some load on the trailer
- put smaller tires (even go with 15" rims to put smaller tires)
- Move the spring and shock mounts higher
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Old November 11th, 2009, 07:44 AM
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They are some springs I got from Dave that came off an 80's D90 and maybe something else. I am not sure of the height off the top if my head but they are stock. I have 2 others that I plan on doing some mixing and matching with to see if I can get it to sit level at least.

I don't want to go any smaller on the tires - I want them to match the vehicle size.

I could certainly move the top mounts up, but not sure I want to go to that much trouble. Starts really negating having used the rover frame and suspension and I could do better building my own.

The bottom line is that relatively speaking there is no weight on them. I think it would take a lot of weight on the trailer to get them to compress.

But it's nothing critical, just wanted to see if there were any options out there I wasn't aware of.
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Ok I'm not trying to lower my truck and put spinners on it, but was wondering if there is such a thing as a shorter springs to lower a defender?

I would like my trailer to ride lower and the springs I have right now give it a lean anyway so I figured I'd see if there were any options out there other than maybe cutting some down.
Why don't you just put a drop hitch on it.
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Old November 11th, 2009, 08:10 AM
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You should put an air bag setup on there, then you could lower and raise it at will.

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Old November 11th, 2009, 08:19 AM
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Why don't you just put a drop hitch on it.
I"m not worried about the height at the hitch, it's the fact that the tub sits higher than my D90!
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You should put an air bag setup on there, then you could lower and raise it at will.

On a custom frame and standard trailer axle I would have considered this :D

But like I said, it's no big deal. I'm not going to do anything radical to lower it.
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Old November 11th, 2009, 08:56 AM
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Why not just cut the springs and weld the bottoms back on.
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Old November 11th, 2009, 09:06 AM
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Why not just cut the springs and weld the bottoms back on.
I figured that was my first option. Not sure if there are any downsides, or if you even need the bottoms back on.
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Why not just cut the springs and weld the bottoms back on.
I was thinking the same thing but just cutting a coil or 2 of one of the side.
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Old November 11th, 2009, 02:55 PM
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The shortest stock rover springs are on the front of a DII (pair here for the taking). They are 1in shorter than DI (pair of those here too).

Fronts are shorter or at least provide 1.5in less lift than rears.

How much do you need to go down?
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Old November 11th, 2009, 03:07 PM
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No fixed amount, but I think 4-6" would be nice. I am not sure what these measure uncompressed, but the two I have lying here measure 15" and 15.5". How tall are those DII ones?

Remind me what you schedule is for cutting your doormobile roof, and roughly how big the cutout will be. Maybe that will be some motivation to come up - help you fit the roof and abscond with the cutout and springs.

Oh, also curious what the born on date is for your porche?

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The shortest stock rover springs are on the front of a DII (pair here for the taking). They are 1in shorter than DI (pair of those here too).

Fronts are shorter or at least provide 1.5in less lift than rears.

How much do you need to go down?
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Ok I'm not trying to lower my truck and put spinners on it, but ......

Charles, is this the new look of Janey ?

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...chmentid=22766
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Never!

Damn your avatar is still throwing me off.

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Charles, is this the new look of Janey ?

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Just buy some spring compressors and leave them on, then you can adjust it in the future as needed. Kidding, of course
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Lift is a function of static hieght and spring rate. DII springs would drop it at most 3in.
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Lift is a function of static hieght and spring rate. DII springs would drop it at most 3in.
Ok, but not terribly useful unless I know the static height difference and the comparative spring rates. But if they are shorter I am sure they are worth trying.
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Just buy some spring compressors and leave them on, then you can adjust it in the future as needed. Kidding, of course
Probably not a good idea, but the thought of putting a limiting strap inside the coil with it still being compressed at rest did cross my mind
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"Ok, but not terribly useful unless I know the static height difference and the comparative spring rates. But if they are shorter I am sure they are worth trying."

Well, I am sure there is somewhere with a list of all land rover springs and their heights and lengths. The biggest thing is if you can find out exactly what you have on there now.
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Easiest solution: just get Barry (bjf) to bring over some fat chicks... boom. lowered.
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Easiest solution: just get Barry (bjf) to bring over some fat chicks... boom. lowered.
ROFL. Except then I'll not only have reduced capacity, but I'll be wretching all over the dash every time I look in the rear-view mirror! Has to be a more environmentally friendly way.

Ron, these springs are mutts. No idea what they are. I'll look for a chart and at least compare them to the DII height documented.
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I would like my trailer to ride lower and the springs I have right now give it a lean anyway so I figured I'd see if there were any options out there other than maybe cutting some down.
Ok I spent some time and compared all 20 or so spring styles we have in stock and the 572315 Right FT RRC spring is the shortest and has the smallest diameter wire. They should work best for you application.
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