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Old January 20th, 2016, 05:30 PM
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Semi-Folding Top Concept (Need engineering gut check)

So, I live in downtown Washington, D.C. My garage is 1" too short for my truck to fit with a top on it, and upon searching around, this seems to be a VERY common height for garages. I have an amazing spot, tons of room to work, power, storage, etc. It's a pretty plum deal. While I won't live here forever, I think it's somewhat likely that I end up someplace else with a low max height.

So my question is, can i make my Exmoor roll hoops kind of folding, just enough to get into garages, not to actually drive around with.

Here's me design, please explain or poke holes in this concept and I accept all comments telling me to not be a f*@cking moron and cut my $700 hoops.

I'd make a cut part way down the side of the hoops (lower to the bottom to allow for maximum pivot), and add a support sheath that would be a tight fit that slides of the new joint I've made.

Will a tight fitting top make this whole setup buckle?






P.S. part of this motivation is that i've gone topless in order to get the truck in my garage, and with the storm of the century coming, I'd like to have a capable vehicle to use.

P.P.S. I'm like 50% looking for people to tell me this is a colossally stupid idea, so don't hold back! I'm just being a baby and don't want to park my truck outside. It's mostly rust free, and in a warm garage, and I'd love to keep it that way.
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Old January 20th, 2016, 05:41 PM
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I think you mean your truck is an inch too tall. Yes you are being a wuss and colossally stupid. If the snow is as they say then you don't want to be out driving unless you have some super compelling reason like you have to get hospital employees to work or you are delivering a baby. No shame in staying on the sideline and waiting this one out. My expensive truck will be parked and i'll drive the LeWiB if I must. If you must drive a Rover in the snow buy my beater RRC for $700 and bash the living crap out of it and save the defender for the Swedish Bikini Tanning Team when they are in town.
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Old January 20th, 2016, 05:43 PM
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ha, whoops, edited.

But point acknowledged.
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Old January 20th, 2016, 06:23 PM
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air down your tires...drive in... leave it till the slush and salt that are going to eat your mostly rust free truck are cleared.
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Old January 20th, 2016, 07:17 PM
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Old January 20th, 2016, 08:05 PM
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Lol...glad you're not payin for this kind of advice aren't you! So without modifying the garage there's little to do but experiment with everything that won't work...

If it's been done before...it's been done here.
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Old January 20th, 2016, 08:05 PM
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Lower the floor or raise the roof.
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Old January 20th, 2016, 08:33 PM
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I agree - Let the air out of the tyres. Or if that doesnt work, take the wheels off and figure out how to move it into the garage wheel-less for the winter. I wouldn't cut the hoops for so many reasons.... Yes hold off for the swedes...
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You could try something like these

Tube Disconnects :: Wide Open Design

They are made for just such an application.

However it would be much easier to let an inch worth of air out of the tires
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Agreed that airing down the tires would be the cheapest and most effective solution, but I read your post in the light that you may be looking for a more manageable solution for using the garage on a REGULAR basis. Getting out and airing down every time, regardless of the time of year would be a pita.

Also, although I think that your tube idea could work, I'm a not a big fan of doing things that cannot be undone! Therefore, have you considered adjustable height suspension. It would be very expensive if you went with the pneumatic, but uber-convenient dial-able height, but it could be removed and sold off when you get your ranch!

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Old January 20th, 2016, 09:18 PM
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Won't the Exmoor hoops just fold down on their own if you drive into the garage fast enough?
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What springs and tires do you have? Some shorter springs (RRC spec) and, worst case, D1/RRC height tires will shave the inch. ------ Follow up post added January 20th, 2016 09:46 PM ------ Shocks don't effect ride height.

Also, a pick up cab is shorter than a full roof on a three door.
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Old January 20th, 2016, 10:14 PM
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Shocks don't effect ride height.
Yup. Brain fart. My bad. But I still like this for a possible solution for consideration. No other compromises then.

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Do something unique. Air suspension from a late RRC or P38.
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Is Your garage header is too short or the door is too short?
You can install smaller radius track that takes your door a couple inches higher , or closer to the ceiling. This gives full use of opening without the door or cross supports getting in the way. I used them on my doors and I have full 8foot opening.
Lifted truck with rooftop basket fits.
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Dunno where he lives exactly but lots of "garages" in DC are actually from horse and buggy days. Often brick. So the door openings can be very low compared to today's standard.
Walk in the alleyways and you'll see.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about a communal underground or other style of parking garage/structure for a building. But I could definitely be wrong judging by some of the suggestions.

Otherwise, don't mess up the truck. Let's fix the garage! ;-) So if it's the header, it's more than likely trimmed with something that can be removed and a more creative way of aesthetically pleasing your wife can be had. If it's not trimmed or clad, figure out how thick it is and what it's overhead load consists of. Maybe there is some margin to work with. 1" isn't much to fudge. If it's the garage door, many options will be at your disposal, including Himalaya's suggestions as well as sidewinder door motors by lift master.
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If the snow is as they say then you don't want to be out driving unless you have some super compelling reason like you have to get hospital employees to work or you are delivering a baby. No shame in staying on the sideline and waiting this one out. My expensive truck will be parked and i'll drive the LeWiB if I must.
^^ ... and stay off my lawn! ^^


Don't listen to him, Dan. He's just grumpy.

I used to live in downtown Boston and some of the best times I had were out driving in the middle of the worst snow storms.
And most Bostonians were usually stuck in their own parking spaces.... or "pahking spawts".

Just be slow and cautious.

Do you have a picture of your Defender here?


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Like other suggest mate.....buy a decent compressor and drive it in on low tire pressure. Pump it back up in garage. Let it out. Repeat outside. Oh and by some stearns or the arb thingydoodle to let air out.

Don't drive a rust free truck out there.
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^^ ... and stay off my lawn! ^^


Don't listen to him, Dan. He's just grumpy.

I used to live in downtown Boston and some of the best times I had were out driving in the middle of the worst snow storms.
And most Bostonians were usually stuck in their own parking spaces.... or "pahking spawts".

Just be slow and cautious.

Do you have a picture of your Defender here?


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Totally agree. The best time to move around and one of the reasons I drive a Rover. I've pulled cops out of ditches and rescue squads up hills they can't crest. That's fun urban Rovering.
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