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Old August 17th, 2017, 05:12 PM
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Seat upgrades

Pros and cons for a Schneel-Mann or Recaro swap out?
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Old August 17th, 2017, 05:22 PM
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Pro: look awesome

Cons: pricey, increase in seat height, lose removable seat bottoms (recaro)
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Old August 17th, 2017, 05:44 PM
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I will never install a seat without removable bottoms.
So to just charge or disconnect the battery you have to take the entire seat out.
That's absolutely crazy.
What's wrong with the stock seats?
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Old August 17th, 2017, 06:04 PM
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After 80k miles they have lost some comfort

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I will never install a seat without removable bottoms.
So to just charge or disconnect the battery you have to take the entire seat out.
That's absolutely crazy.
What's wrong with the stock seats?
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Old August 17th, 2017, 06:16 PM
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I will never install a seat without removable bottoms.
So to just charge or disconnect the battery you have to take the entire seat out.
That's absolutely crazy.
What's wrong with the stock seats?
Scheel-Mann Seat bottoms tip up for battery/tool box access - couldn't agree more about not installing a seat that you have to unbolt to access the stowage areas.
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Old August 18th, 2017, 01:40 AM
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After 80k miles they have lost some comfort
Being in SoCal I would think you could find a competent interior shop to re-foam your OE seats, add some side bolsters and upgrade materials all for less than new seats from the UK....
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Old August 18th, 2017, 08:31 AM
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So, how does the tip up feature work?
I'm having a hard time picturing where the seat will go since there is not much room.

Also, since I'm sure you have installed many different brands, can you comment on the comfort of them?


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Old August 18th, 2017, 08:44 AM
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I made some brackets and adapters and went with some Smittybilt seats (yes jeep seats) $250 each or so. The whole seat tilts back for battery access. They are maybe 1/4-1/2 taller than stock. I think I could make my brackets a bit lower if I were to do it again.
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Old August 18th, 2017, 09:07 AM
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I had smart car seats in my 110 until recently. I chose them because used defender seats were 3 times the price. Now that I have nstalled some like new 90's era defender seats, I'm disappointed with the comfort. Ugly smart seats on makeshift brackets were a lot more comfortable!
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Old August 18th, 2017, 09:24 AM
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So, how does the tip up feature work?
I'm having a hard time picturing where the seat will go since there is not much room.

Also, since I'm sure you have installed many different brands, can you comment on the comfort of them?


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They show a picture of the seat bottom tipped up here:

Touring Seat | scheel-mann
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Old August 18th, 2017, 11:12 AM
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We were talking about this at HH last night...

A few of the guys have the Corbeau Moab. They range from $480-$600 depending on the material used. Plus the seat brackets ($200 more).
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Old August 18th, 2017, 11:19 AM
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So, how does the tip up feature work?
I'm having a hard time picturing where the seat will go since there is not much room.

Also, since I'm sure you have installed many different brands, can you comment on the comfort of them?
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Certainly - comfort can vary widely by user and use. For point of view on this my own perspective is based on my frame size (5'10" 170lbs, average build) intended uses (long distance off-pavement, secondary highway, and daily driver) and style preference (traditional 1990's Defender)

My preference of seating for comfort at my average use in order:
  1. NTO genuine seats
  2. Scheel-Mann
  3. Excellent condition Used genuine Seats (10~15 years old on average)
  4. New Exmoor Trim seats
  5. Restored seats using Exmoor kits
  6. Bucket and a Board
  7. Original Early Defender seats

I left off no-access seats and some of the more eclectic offerings I have installed or ridden in. For example the Kahn seats were nicely made, very supportive; but smelled like an Audi and didn't tip open. Some Disco or RangeRover seat installations have been like lounge chairs; but again, without the tool-free seabox access I would never use them in my own truck.

There are negatives to each of the seats listed - NTO means seat covers, replacing all seats to match, or having a variety of seat patterns in a truck. Scheel-Mann seats are deeper restricting installation into a truck with a rear bulkhead. Exmoor foam is just too soft and unsupportive for any significant driving time. Etc...

Style is a whole other issue, and everyone has a different opinion of what the interior of the truck should look like - for decoration or function or peacock plumage reasons. So there is no way to rank seats other than construction materials and quality of assembly - but even there price and perceived value play a huge part. To that end I would probably keep the list in similar order with a couple shifts due in part to the quality of manufacturing. Again seat box access is a prerequisite to be on the list...
  1. Scheel-Mann
  2. Genuine seats
  3. Exmoor Trim seats
  4. Others...


For what it's worth, in my current personall trucks I have the following seats -
  • Custom Scheel-Mann chequerplate to match the existing middle row and center seats
  • Used 96-97 Genuine Seats in houndstooth-cheque front and middle row
  • Used Exmoor/OEM front seats in black Outlast, and black vinyl center seat
  • & original 1950's Elephant-hide series seats (whole separate discussion)


As to the Scheel-Mann tip up base, there is a retaining pin at the front of the seat base, pin pulled and the rear base retaining section is a pivot bar allowing the seat base to tip up. Lower side sections stay in place as does the slide latch. Access is not as generous as a removable base, but is adequate to remove and install a battery or large tools from the storage areas.

Hope this helps.
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Old August 18th, 2017, 11:32 AM
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I made some brackets and adapters and went with some Smittybilt seats (yes jeep seats) $250 each or so. The whole seat tilts back for battery access. They are maybe 1/4-1/2 taller than stock. I think I could make my brackets a bit lower if I were to do it again.
What seat model are those? Putting an internal cage in the 130 and thinking of moving to rear buckets to make more room for cage.
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Old August 18th, 2017, 11:53 AM
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Old August 18th, 2017, 01:01 PM
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Hope this helps.
That absolutely helps! And you're a half inch shorter and 2 lbs lighter than me so I trust your opinion!

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They show a picture of the seat bottom tipped up here:

Touring Seat | scheel-mann
That's nice. I didnt picture just the middle tilting up without the side bolsters.


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