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Old December 19th, 2010, 01:34 PM
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If you can get them Post 1994 would be the best but they are rare here and expensive (last I checked) in the UK, but then you can use disco hubs but then you will need new axles and flanges. The best hub is the pre ABS RRC hub1988-1990.
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Old December 20th, 2010, 07:53 PM
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Mine is No Go

Took it a part tonight and my stub has the bearing diameter all the way to the threads.

I think this is what I need.
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Old December 21st, 2010, 12:55 PM
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Why not run the full disco set up with new inner axles?
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Old December 21st, 2010, 08:23 PM
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Discs on the back

With the help of Keith I have swapped Discs on the back of my 1983 110(still temp). I just took the front hubs/rotors off the truck to see how they would work on the back, perfect match, the only thing that didn't work were bolts to hold the stub axle on. (Too long) I tried to use the ring that went over the old drum setup as a spacer but no good.

I got the whole thing back together, now I need brackets (3066), calipers and an extra set of hubs and rotors for the front. Doug had an extra axle, so I'm good.
Its all very temporary, rotors need to be cut, new bearings need to be installed.

Many Thanks to Keith for explaining this so clearly! Don't know what makes these trucks more appealing, the people who are so willing to help or the design of the truck itself?

1 front hub
2 rear with the spacer, took it off, couldn't get the nuts and spacers on the end of the axle
3 Front hub and out going drum setup
4 Front Hub on Rear all bolted up
5 Finished
6 I just threw the old drum hubs on the front in case I have to move it
7 Obligitory dog pic, notice gear oil spots all over her back!
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Old December 31st, 2010, 09:25 AM
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Could I swap in Disco CV's and Axles into my existing 1983 110 housing setup/stubs/hubs

Provided I swap the disco diff in also
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Old December 31st, 2010, 12:51 PM
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Yep, it all drops right in.
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Old December 31st, 2010, 03:25 PM
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Yep, it all drops right in.

Really? Wont the disco (Assimng it's a 32spline CV) CV's be too short to fit into the early 23 spline stub axles? (well, not too short to "fit in", but too short to poke out the end and let the drive hub attach)


You'd need to swap the whole lot of the disco stuff.... basically unbolt the whole hub from the end of the axle casing.

That is, if i'm reading it right.
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Old January 1st, 2011, 05:13 PM
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You are correct Jim. The way I originally read Tom's comment I was thinking that Tom would swap the hubs and stubs from a Disco which needs to be done to fit Disco CV's and axles.

To clarify:

To fit late model axles and CV's (1994 and later) one also needs to change to the later style Stub axles (short pattern)drive flanges (thin type) and the hubs to match from a 1994 or later Disco, RRC or Defender.

Some earlier RRC's with ABS also had the short stubs but RRC is a mess of different models and it is easier to say 1994 and later.

Keep in mind that I have seen a few 1994 Defenders with the old pattern stubs, flanges and hubs but it seems to be rare.
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Bracket Machining?

Which side of the bracket get taken down? It seems either side would get the desired result.

The all silver side?
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The side with just the 4 machined circles?


The other pics are of the crap in the axle housing!
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Old January 7th, 2011, 09:57 PM
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Machine the caliper side (two bolt holes)
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Old January 8th, 2011, 07:51 PM
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The stub axle bolts are too long to use with the new setup. In my search for new ones I can only find them short enough fully threaded, I was wondering if thats going to be a problem?


As far as what I would up with was:

Front: Disco I- stubs/axles/CVs/differential/hubs/calipers

Rear: 1983 110 front hubs, Front hubs on back axle with Disco I rear rotors and calipers. axles remain the same.

Still not finished, but my fingers are crossed
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Old January 8th, 2011, 10:21 PM
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I'm missing something Tom? Which stub axle bolts?
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Old January 8th, 2011, 11:18 PM
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The rear had 6 bolts with locking nuts, they are too long to use with the caliper bracket.
The shoulder of the bolt bottoms out against the caliper bracket way before it gets tight
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Got it. You will be fine with fully threaded bolts.
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Calipers on Back

I got the 3306 brackets machined on the rear to down to .120".

The bracket goes on nice but the it seems the rotor is a little closer to the outboard side of the truck.

Driver side seems fine, slight rub when the brake pads are in.

Passenger side hits the caliper (outboard side) even before I put the pads in. The rotor has a slight warp to it.

I was wondering if the rotor is the culprit, or should I have another .01 off the bracket?
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Old January 15th, 2011, 11:40 AM
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Confirm your rotor first, then if you need to take a bit more off the bracket... Carefully..
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I am trying to sort out exactly what I need in order to do this conversion. I already have a set of rear calipers, but need everything else. I can figure out most of the stuff but wanted to clarify part numbers for the Hubs, Brackets and Mudshields if possible. I believe I need:

2x FRC6139
2x FTC3306

but what are the correct part numbers for the Mudshields? Also, is there intermediate bracket that I need in order to mount the shields?

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Old April 4th, 2011, 03:48 AM
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FTC3306 is correct for the caliper bracket. You should be able to reuse your hubs. The P/N for the mud shield that bolts on with the stub axle is FRC2310. Don't bother with the backing plates, they're pointless and will rust away in a few years.

Are you going for the newer stub axle, or making bracket spacers ala' Diesel Jim?
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I personally would not install the mud shields. They are really just mud and rock traps casuing accelerated wear.
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OK, thanks for the reply. I do need to replace the hubs though so that I have bolt holes to mount the rotors too, correct? I wasn't planning to change the stub axle, just the hubs, unless I have misread the info in this thread.
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