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Old May 31st, 2009, 12:19 AM
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SafariGard 3 link front suspension

Has anyone installed this?
The pro appears to be more front end articulation. Good.
But what about the cons? Squirrelly on the road?
Anyone have experience with this setup?
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Old May 31st, 2009, 07:12 PM
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If you search you will find a miriad of information on this. It is a great product. I would have designed it differently, but you can drive all day on the street as long as you have the right spring and shock combination.
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Old May 31st, 2009, 08:53 PM
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Call Justin at Lucky 8 he has a QT one which is way nicer for $1200 I believe they are like $2900 new
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Old May 31st, 2009, 09:06 PM
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Even at $1200 thats a lot to swallow. The SG one at $600 is a good deal. At $1200 I would pay a shop to do it and fix some of the wierdness at the same time.
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Old June 1st, 2009, 08:23 AM
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There is a lot more to the QT than a couple of chunks of tubing and a few plates.

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And I believe there is enough interest in the community that if you could produce one that would sell for $1200 it would sell. The SG was on backorder for ever at over $1k.
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Buck....

What is the "weirdness"?
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Old June 1st, 2009, 09:36 AM
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There is a lot more to the QT than a couple of chunks of tubing and a few plates.

Check it out

And I believe there is enough interest in the community that if you could produce one that would sell for $1200 it would sell. The SG was on backorder for ever at over $1k.
All I'm saying is bolt on is only good to a cirtain price. After that going to a fab shop and getting something a lot cleaner is the way to go.

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What is the "weirdness"?
Please don't misunderstand. I think the SG kit is a fantastic product. A good solution to a real problem. That said, attaching a third link to a tie rod skid plate is very wierd. Having a lower third is wierd as it obsorbs all the brake forces. Having a threaded tube for adjustment rather than bungs and hiems is really wierd.
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Old June 1st, 2009, 09:55 AM
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You're up early.
Any pictures of you at the Hammers?
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I've been on the road since 5:30! I would complain but I'm pretty happy to still have a job!! I have a lot. You looking for KOH or just the hammers?
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Old June 1st, 2009, 10:23 AM
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Whatever you think.
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I can email you a link to my photobucket account. It has some good ones. Video too.
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Old June 1st, 2009, 12:29 PM
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I like mine, It works well and is a decent bolt on solution. I made several changes to mine, just because I could.
I drive it daily.
It is surprizingly streetable and have had a couple of occasions where someone pulled out in front of me while I was at speed, the emergency braking and steering charactoristics were not a problem.
I am running RTE grey 3" springs with pretty soft (160/80?) Bilstein 7100's
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Quote:
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There is a lot more to the QT than a couple of chunks of tubing and a few plates.

Check it out

And I believe there is enough interest in the community that if you could produce one that would sell for $1200 it would sell. The SG was on backorder for ever at over $1k.

I have the SG one and its great I also installed about 3 more of them on other trucks. I have seen the QT one and do not like it compared to the SG one. You can not adjust the pinion one the QT one which is one of the best features on the SG unit.

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All I'm saying is bolt on is only good to a cirtain price. After that going to a fab shop and getting something a lot cleaner is the way to go.

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Please don't misunderstand. I think the SG kit is a fantastic product. A good solution to a real problem. That said, attaching a third link to a tie rod skid plate is very wierd. Having a lower third is wierd as it obsorbs all the brake forces. Having a threaded tube for adjustment rather than bungs and hiems is really wierd.

I think the new ones are Heimed..
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Old June 1st, 2009, 04:08 PM
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Randy...

Were the installations true bolt-ons or was welding required.
Have any been NAS with 300TDis installed?
My removable frame support has been replaced by a custom one for the 300 TDi and I think that is what the 3 link bolts to.
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The install is true bolt on. A little drilling is all that is required if I remember right.
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Randy...

Were the installations true bolt-ons or was welding required.
Have any been NAS with 300TDis installed?
My removable frame support has been replaced by a custom one for the 300 TDi and I think that is what the 3 link bolts to.
We gave SG the pattern for the NAS/Tdi 3 link cross-member many years ago and they produced quite a few so that folks who had gone Tdi in their NAS trucks could run a 3 link. I had one in ECR4 for years, no issues, loved it on the street and trail.
Not sure if the new SG has that part anymore, but we still have all the dimensions if they are needed.
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Old June 1st, 2009, 05:45 PM
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Thanks Mike, I'll check with them
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Its a complete bolt in system. Like Mike said, there is a TDI x-member that is still listed on the website. I spoke with Casey about one not to long ago and he said there are still available... On my truck, I have the stock Tdi trans x-member and the SG 3-link x-member both installed.
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On my truck, I have the stock Tdi trans x-member and the SG 3-link x-member both installed.
That is the system we developed with Greg at SG. The Tdi gearbox x-member stays in place and the 3 link member goes in front of it where the V8 one would have been.
ECR4 was the first NAS to Tdi conversion truck to get a SG 3 link... way way back in the day.
OK... I'm old.
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