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Old April 8th, 2010, 05:14 PM
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Rust (under carriage/etc)

I'm looking for a D-90 and most have rust under the truck. Some look very good otherwise. What can be done to repair if I bought a truck with a little rust and then again, maybe it's not a major issue. I wanted to hear some opinions from folks who have D-90's and are more mechanically inclined than me. Lastly, if you where buying would you go with a 94/95 or 97 and why?

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Old April 8th, 2010, 05:21 PM
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Has anyone, out of curiosity, used a rust converter spray on the underside of a truck before? If so, how are the results, assuming it's mainly surface rust?
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Old April 8th, 2010, 05:30 PM
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I touch up mine with the spray can of rust converter you can buy at wal-mart etc. My LWB probably has had a couple cans sprayed on it over its life.
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Old April 8th, 2010, 05:30 PM
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Many people scrape the rust off (if its just surface rust) then Waxoyl the undercarriage. If you are in Florida, you probably wont have many issues with salt on the road.

I've heard some people use Fluid Film as well but I think Waxoyl lasts longer.

Depending on how you will be driving one will depend on what you should get. If I was in FL, I would get a ST and run a surrey all year long Manual or auto - your choice.

There's a place in Pompano where there is a large selection of Defenders, perhaps you should check them out http://britrover.com/listman/listings/ - just a suggestion. Most of those are hand picked and will probably have alot of the mech issues sorted out already.

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Old April 8th, 2010, 05:49 PM
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Many people scrape the rust off (if its just surface rust) then Waxoyl the undercarriage. If you are in Florida, you probably wont have many issues with salt on the road.

I've heard some people use Fluid Film as well but I think Waxoyl lasts longer.

Depending on how you will be driving one will depend on what you should get. If I was in FL, I would get a ST and run a surrey all year long Manual or auto - your choice.

There's a place in Pompano where there is a large selection of Defenders, perhaps you should check them out http://britrover.com/listman/listings/ - just a suggestion. Most of those are hand picked and will probably have alot of the mech issues sorted out already.

Good luck with your search!
There's a guy with a Beluga Black 95 for sale that he bought from them. It's a good looking truck. Has a little rust underneath, that's kinda why I was asking. I have been leaning towards a 97 because I wanted auto. The plan is to put a surrey and drive as much as possible. 97 seem to be a little more pricey and black seems harder to locate regardless of year.

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Old April 8th, 2010, 06:09 PM
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97s have the advantage of being OBDII compliant, which makes it easier during inspection times.
Patience is a practice very difficult to adhere to when looking for a defender.

At least you are narrowing down your criteria on what you want.
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Old April 8th, 2010, 06:27 PM
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97s have the advantage of being OBDII compliant, which makes it easier during inspection times.
Or harder if you engine swap...
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Old April 8th, 2010, 06:47 PM
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97s have the advantage of being OBDII compliant, which makes it easier during inspection times.
Patience is a practice very difficult to adhere to when looking for a defender.

At least you are narrowing down your criteria on what you want.
Why would it be easier to be OBD II compliant ... I thought the pre ODB II test was easier??
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Why would it be easier to be OBD II compliant ... I thought the pre ODB II test was easier??
Less and less shops are keeping the older equipment running making it harder to do inspections on pre OBDII vehicles.

I had a hard time finding a place to do mine. No one had a dyno working near me.


Interesting point about engine swap issue.
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And that is when you get the beautiful thing called EXEMPTED.

When I had the 95 D90, they exempted me straight out of the emmissions ....


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Less and less shops are keeping the older equipment running making it harder to do inspections on pre OBDII vehicles.

I had a hard time finding a place to do mine. No one had a dyno working near me.


Interesting point about engine swap issue.
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Old April 8th, 2010, 07:31 PM
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And that is when you get the beautiful thing called EXEMPTED.

When I had the 95 D90, they exempted me straight out of the emmissions ....
Can you talk to NY DMV for me to get mine exempt next time round? Which reminds me it's coming up soon
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Old April 8th, 2010, 08:15 PM
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I took my 94 in for emissions and I was told it is to old, so it's exempt from testing.
The cutoff is 15 years!
That's good luck.
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Gery,

I believe there is a GLITCH on the Emmissions Law ( Federal ) and if the vehicle has been registered in the state and suddenly not possible to perform the Emissions test, they must exempt, as the burden for the test is on them not you.

It is worth the effort to check it out.

I know they couldn't do my Diablo when I lived in NY and NJ and I was EXEMPT for few years until sold


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Can you talk to NY DMV for me to get mine exempt next time round? Which reminds me it's coming up soon
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Gery,

I believe there is a GLITCH on the Emmissions Law ( Federal ) and if the vehicle has been registered in the state and suddenly not possible to perform the Emissions test, they must exempt, as the burden for the test is on them not you.

It is worth the effort to check it out.

I know they couldn't do my Diablo when I lived in NY and NJ and I was EXEMPT for few years until sold
I agree with Gustavo, my 95 DI is exempt in NY. Never had a problem with inspection in Queens or Rockland County.
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Old April 9th, 2010, 08:36 AM
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First year I got my defender, I went to 4 places and none could do it. I eventually went to of all places Land Rover Massapequa which sent it over the Volvo dealership next door which had a running dyno. Got it done last year again there but sadly the Massapequa Land Rover closed down along with Volvo dealer next door (I think they were part of the same auto group)

I will look into the exempt clause in NY. I thought it was something like a 20 yr old vehicle was eligible.
I'm sure I can get it done someplace else but what a pain to have to drive more than a couple miles to do it. Nice way to waste a couple hours in a search.

What turned from a thread about rust control to finding the right defender to emmision regulations we've taken it all over the place! Lol!
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If you do rust converter get the brush on type and it goes a lot further and works better, wire wheel first, then convert, then waxoyl.
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