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Old January 12th, 2011, 11:20 PM
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Runs great, then sudden death

Hey guys, obviously im new here so go easy on me!! :-) This is my third rover so im not a total newb. Gears, axles and all that off road stuff is no problem with me but anything involving wires just kills me! Please help.

Mine is a 1995. 90% of the time it runs great but three times now it just straight up dies while driving. Im talking just a smooth stretch of road. No hills, bumps, sudden braking, no rain or anything. Doesnt matter hot, cold, wet or dry. Just runs great, then 100% dead. Pull to the side of the road, turn the key off and it will restart and act all normal for several days.

Also, about 1 out of every 5 starts nothing will happen when I turn the key. No click or anything. Then try again and its perfect.

My first guess is that the ignition switch is bad but with it running, I can wiggle it, hit the steering wheel and it wont act up.

Any help would be appreicated.

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Old January 12th, 2011, 11:32 PM
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I'd start with checking your battery ground. Then look at your coil/distributor. ?
But I'm just guessing... others?

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Old January 13th, 2011, 01:16 AM
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When the truck dies, do you lose everything else, i.e. radio, gauges, headlights, etc? Or does the engine just stop running?
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Old January 13th, 2011, 01:32 AM
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Definitely check the coil. I had this problem when I was a new Defender owner. The little spade connector on the coil came loose and would cause the truck to die immediately. You can replace this connector with a ring connector if you like.
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Old January 13th, 2011, 09:50 AM
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I also suspect the coil. fuel starvation is quick loss of power, but not instant death. Coil is the only thing that would kill all cylinders instantly. That said, coil issues have nothing to do with the ability of the starter to turn, so I would also suspect some kind of loose connection between your ignition switch, starter solenoid and starter. It's a pretty simple circuit and should be easy to isolate.

good luck. Coil and distributors are the reason I went to be at night thinking about diesels.
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Old January 13th, 2011, 11:19 AM
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Is this a black ST? I think I saw it a couple years back in the parking lot of the hospital. Nice looking truck.

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Old January 13th, 2011, 02:13 PM
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I'd swap out that ignition switch and check all conections. Those switches can have an intermittent failure.
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Old January 13th, 2011, 02:29 PM
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Ive had very similar things happen - on two occasions - with three different faults.

The first was caused by a loose connector to the inertia switch. Thats the small black box on the top driver's side of the firewall in the engine bay. It has a rubber boot on the top for the reset switch. A good clean and re connecting the harness plug took care of it.

The second time was a real misery. The first cause was that the plastic end of the ingition switch came progressively loose and caused intermittent starting and cut out problems - with increasing frequency. A new switch improved it but didnt completly fix it. the final fix came with a new HD ground cable from the battery to the frame and the transmission.
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Old January 13th, 2011, 03:03 PM
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I had that exact same problem! Turned out it was the white wire with the stripe that goes from the fuel pump relay to the fuel pump. That wire goes through the harness and through the chassis so if its corroded you can't even see it. Also the connector at the right rear fender well was also corroded as well. After bypassing it everything went fine until I started having problems with my coil (I'm sure I burned it out while putting the ignition in the 2nd position to listen to the stereo) I grounded the fuel pump straight to the chassis and bypassed the harness ground.
A guy told me one time "don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat from around the corner"

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Old January 13th, 2011, 05:36 PM
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Had a similar problem with my 200tdi. I don't know if the gas engines have a fuel shutoff solenoid like the diesels, but that was the source of my misery. It cause the identical problems you describe: instant dead shutoff of power, and an intermittent start problem. Replacement resulted in an instant resolution of the issue.
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Old January 13th, 2011, 05:44 PM
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10 to 1 it's the ignition switch. Try starting the truck and then wiggle the keys around in every direction and see if it cuts out on you. Don't hang your kids stuff'd animals on your key chain! Heavy key chains can cause the ignition switch to loosen up more than normal and make things touch that shouldn't be touching. Check ALL grounds very well....especially the one on the back side of the driver's head.

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