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Old March 28th, 2009, 02:10 PM
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Rubber Gasket NAS 110 Roll Cage

I'm putting my roll cage back together and can't get the rubber gaskets to fit properly like this one.
What's the trick?
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Old March 28th, 2009, 05:04 PM
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I believe Mike from ECR says that NAS 110s never came with the rubber gasket from the factory, and that they put them in, but they need to be stretched...

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Old March 31st, 2009, 11:18 PM
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Any thoughts on this?

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Old March 31st, 2009, 11:30 PM
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It is the same part, its just stretched - I've asked Mike about it before.
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Old April 1st, 2009, 11:21 AM
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I knoe but I've stretched it and it is not staying in place at the bend on the rear mounts.
Maybe he has some technique to put it on.
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Old April 1st, 2009, 04:05 PM
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I knoe but I've stretched it and it is not staying in place at the bend on the rear mounts.
Maybe he has some technique to put it on.
The only technique is that the cage foot has to sit flat and square against the body and the bolts tightened down in stages to grab and hold the seal in the correct place. If the interior part of the cage is sticking out of not lined up right it will make the seal squirt out. You still have to use sealant before you put the rubber seal on as well, otherwise the cage holes will leak water. We just use the seal in order to make things look a little more "finished" it is not a water seal.
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Old April 1st, 2009, 04:11 PM
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Mike. Thanks. That's the problem I'm having. Things are not lining up quite right.
I'll try to re-adjust everything. Do you use ratchet straps to bring the cage foot into place?
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What I did was install the inner cage first and leave it slightly loose, then I bolted up the exterior cage (loosely at first). Once all of it was together with all the bolts in place, I went around and tightened up all the exterior bolts, and then tightened up all the interior ones. It came together quite nicely that way, but it definitely needs to be able to move around a little to line up all the 110 cage parts before you tighten everything up.
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what's the part numbers for the seals on the top? mine are leaking (sorry for the hijack). I thought I read somewhere that people were using a different seal on top for the cage that worked better.
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Mark, I don't know about newer ones, but there are a million options for that one. If you want original ones, I think I have a couple sitting around still in the bags.
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ECR: Sealant for Pad

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The only technique is that the cage foot has to sit flat and square against the body and the bolts tightened down in stages to grab and hold the seal in the correct place. If the interior part of the cage is sticking out of not lined up right it will make the seal squirt out. You still have to use sealant before you put the rubber seal on as well, otherwise the cage holes will leak water. We just use the seal in order to make things look a little more "finished" it is not a water seal.
Mike, what type of sealant do you guys use under the pad? The stock looks like it was white?

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Mike, what type of sealant do you guys use under the pad? The stock looks like it was white?

Thanks.

On stock 110s we use white 3M marine sealant like 5200 or 4200, on the trucks that we do with black cage we use black. The sealant isn't under the pad really. We get the interior section of cage in the correct location, then we seal all the gaps and make the cage water tight. Then we install the seal and the exterior cage once the goo has cured.
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Does anyone ever found the rubber gasket/seals that goes on the cage?

I am looking to get 6 of them.

Any asisstance on part number / where to get them would be great

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Does anyone ever found the rubber gasket/seals that goes on the cage?

I am looking to get 6 of them.

Any asisstance on part number / where to get them would be great

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The ones off a 90 do not fit correctly and look like crap.
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What material are the seals? Wouldn't it just be as easy to get raw material and cut to fit? Is it like 1/4" weatherstripping type foam?
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Yeah, I totally tried the rubber gaskets when I was building my truck. I could never satisfy myself with the look. I did achieve the same result as the ECR pic above, I just couldn't stand it.

What I ended up doing was sealing the underbody mounts as described above, and then I made a pond-liner pad to go under the roll cage foot.

I did use the d-90 pieces up front though.
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The ones off a 90 do not fit correctly and look like crap.
He's correct.
You can use it on the front leg, but seal the rear 4 legs with sealer like the factory did.

That ALR # will just trya nd squirt out the side.
We used them (had to) for a small period in time when we were having trouble finding a black sealant that was UV stable. I wouldn't suggest those seals for the back 4 feet on a SD cage.
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I' m about a week from reinstalling my roll cage and my thought was to seal the body and interior roll cage pads with silicone and then make black rubber seals with black rubber gasket material for the rear four pads. I did buy 6 of the factory seals but discovered they will only work on the front two pads. My intent is to make sure the body pads are watertight before putting on the exterior pads. It has to be better than what I started with.
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