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Old April 2nd, 2012, 04:15 PM
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ROW 110 with exploded front diff/axel housing

Alright, back at this issue now that I'm relocated.

Axel Housing is F'd, front diff carrier grenaded and took out the axel housing...

Opportunity knocking for a HD unit.

Best resource for a full replacement front axel housing with diff housing and internals in western Washington? (Closest big city is Tacoma)

Am I right in that i am after a D1 front axel/diff, or a pre 93 Classic front setup?

Thanks in advance for any and all help pointing me in the right direction...

Now planning on a full body off rebuild as soon as I can locate the big parts and rent a hangar to work in.
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Old April 2nd, 2012, 04:28 PM
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Don't know if you really want the pre '93 RR Classic axle. If I remember correctly, those are 10 spline axle shafts.
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Check with Gord'n at www.lamornagarage.com/ in Seattle. If you end up building yours back up, get an 8" weld on pipe cap to replace the damaged sheetmetal cover.

Also, do you know if your '86 has the wide or narrow front radios arms?

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Will reach out to Gord'n. The cover is not the damaged part, the lower bell has a few gear shaped protrusions (if I am understanding you right) so a complete axel housing is in order...

Not certain on the wide/narrow arms as this truck has seen some Central European repair work so its a little bit of a miss mash of parts...
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Old April 2nd, 2012, 05:18 PM
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Can you show us a picture? The lower bell is one of the thickest sections!

Pull a dust cap (you may need to pull a wheel if not running steelies) and count the splines and tell us what you currently have.
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Old April 2nd, 2012, 05:31 PM
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I have never had to drill out any calipers for the different bolt. What you talking bout Briggs ?

Also posted in the other thread what I do regularly.
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 12:05 AM
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Can you show us a picture? The lower bell is one of the thickest sections!

Pull a dust cap (you may need to pull a wheel if not running steelies) and count the splines and tell us what you currently have.
Here are a couple images for you... note the bump slightly off center in the lower housing.

I pulled a cir-clip and a chunk of metal out of the drain hole.
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 07:24 AM
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Doesn't look bad to me, I'd keep it and run it.
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I totally agree with Dan. Get a decent diff guard though - I recommend any weld on kind. The damage doesn't look bad enough to worry about future leaks even, but if you were, then get a sewer cap style which replaces the front cap completely. But even that would be overkill IMO.

I'd figure out what you spline count is and get a replacement third member and call it done.

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This can all be sorted out for less than a hundred bucks.
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If it is RHD, you might have some issues with steering linkages. Don't ask how I know....
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This can all be sorted out for less than a hundred bucks.
Diff is blown, as there were chunks of gear teeth that I pulled out the lower drain hole... I can't figure out how to replace the gearing and damaged internal mounting points for less than a Benjamin...

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If it is RHD, you might have some issues with steering linkages. Don't ask how I know....
Fortunately it's LHD, and I have located a complete replacement front axle and diff without having to resort to shipping.
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Diff is blown, as there were chunks of gear teeth that I pulled out the lower drain hole... I can't figure out how to replace the gearing and damaged internal mounting points for less than a Benjamin...
If it's 24 spline you just grab a complete 3rd member from a disco 1. Call Randy or Will, or maybe someone closer your way, or just visit a junk yard. If not 24 spline, ask here and someone will have one but you'll need to specify what.
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If it's 24 spline you just grab a complete 3rd member from a disco 1. Call Randy or Will, or maybe someone closer your way, or just visit a junk yard. If not 24 spline, ask here and someone will have one but you'll need to specify what.
Charles,
He's on the wrong coast.
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To be clear you want one of these :

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Doug, that's why I said someone closer your way. There has to be the equivalent vendors out west no?
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Doug, that's why I said someone closer your way. There has to be the equivalent vendors out west no?
Plus the axle housing...

I found a local with the whole front axle housing, swivels, diff, for $500. Not sure I could do much better tracking down a junker or paying shipping from anywhere else.
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Plus the axle housing...

I found a local with the whole front axle housing, swivels, diff, for $500. Not sure I could do much better tracking down a junker or paying shipping from anywhere else.
Sounds like a lot. I just sold a complete 110 10 spline front axle for $100... with brakes, but I'm known for being stupid cheap.
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Sounds like a lot. I just sold a complete 110 10 spline front axle for $100... with brakes, but I'm known for being stupid cheap.
With diff/housing?

You are cheap, and on the wrong coast...

(That sounds far worse than I meant.)
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With diff/housing?

You are cheap, and on the wrong coast...

(That sounds far worse than I meant.)
Is that like calling a female a dirty hooker ? Yep caliper to caliper, even included the radius arms.
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Diff is blown, as there were chunks of gear teeth that I pulled out the lower drain hole... I can't figure out how to replace the gearing and damaged internal mounting points for less than a Benjamin...
You'll get there sooner or later.
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