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Old October 10th, 2010, 07:53 AM
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Rovers North HID Xenon kit?

Has anyone had any experience with this kit on a Defender?

There seems to be a lack of really good systems for conversion but I'm hopeful that Rovers North might have hit on a good option?

http://www.roversnorth.com/store/p-1...-bulb-kit.aspx
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Old October 10th, 2010, 08:12 AM
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It looks like a pretty good kit. I would stay away from the ebay ones... My local auto shop showed me some "samples" of the ebay ones. Harneses fried, wires toasted, bulbs burning out in a monthetc...

1. I would make sure the one that RN is selling has Hi and Low beam, some of the cheaper ones only have low beam.

2. Glass makes a huge difference: I currently have the Hella H4 glass on my truck (very nice about $40 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HELLA...Q5fAccessories)

3. Here is the PIAA install in structions http://www.piaacanada.com/HIDH4.pdf If you call PIAA in the US you have to tell them you want them for off road use (farm, racing etc..) Or you can get them from Canada..

4. I currently run the 85/135 the Piaa bulbs. The bulbs last about a year and I will be upgrading to HID when the next bulb blows.

5. When one HID bulb goes you have to change both or they won't match.

6. I have been told to seal the rubber gasket around the H4 lens to keep water coming in if I decide to cross more creeks..

On a side note: At Mar I had the H4 glass and the PIAA bulbs got it so hot that when I did a creek crossing they cracked (the lights where on for about 3 hours...) The HID won't get anywhere near as hot as the HID.
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Old October 10th, 2010, 09:43 AM
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ive been reading about HID's from what I can gather the HIDs need to be in a reflector designed for an HID and its illegal to run them on the road. There are plenty of kits available that are high quality for less than what RN is asking.


The best bet is to run the e-codes in stock wattage or the Osram bulbs to keep it all simple...
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ive been reading about HID's from what I can gather the HIDs need to be in a reflector designed for an HID and its illegal to run them on the road. There are plenty of kits available that are high quality for less than what RN is asking.


The best bet is to run the e-codes in stock wattage or the Osram bulbs to keep it all simple...
This is the route I am going with. I picked up a set of e-codes with 55/65W bulbs and am building an upgraded harness for power...I plan to put the harness in with the stock sealed beams first so I can do some comparison pics as I upgrade.

On the HID, I would spend the money on a good set (or 2) of auxiliary lights before the HID's but then, I have never owned a vehicle with HID's so I may not be the best judge!
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Old October 10th, 2010, 11:52 AM
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These are the bulbs I run with the Hella H4 glass

http://www.shopatron.com/products/pr...PIA10904/353.0

I am very happy with the result.. The bulbs meet Dot but the glass does not. I have them propery aimed and I passed inspection no problem. I also have a headlight adjustment in the ROW truck.... Most officers are not looking at your bulbs or glass, they just want to make sure you are not blinding other drivers... When I want to do that I light up my Piaa 580's....
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see my thread on " headlamps" fella...
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If anyone wants more info on PIAA products, I am available during the week at 800 665-5031 9-5 Pacific. I fill the orders for PIAA Canada. I have just come back from visiting the factory in China that is manufacturing the best H4 HID kit out there. (They also manufacture for the major German companies.) I suppose I should post a technical deal on what is going on now with HID.
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If anyone wants more info on PIAA products, I am available during the week at 800 665-5031 9-5 Pacific. I fill the orders for PIAA Canada. I have just come back from visiting the factory in China that is manufacturing the best H4 HID kit out there. (They also manufacture for the major German companies.) I suppose I should post a technical deal on what is going on now with HID.

Does that mean we get a discount? I would like to go the PIAA HID route (for off road use only of course....).
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Old October 10th, 2010, 04:22 PM
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What's the difference between what RN is selling and an ebay kit.... besides price? They more or less look identical. Here's a kit on ebay for $88 with a 5-year warranty.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Xenon...ht_7314wt_1167
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My 2 sents:
1. Went with Hella H-4 headlight housing and ran PIAA superwhites with an auxilliary harness when I first purchased the rig in 06. Power for the harness was pulled off a the starter leed and the relay was activated by the normal headlights set up. Much better than stock.

2. As an upgrade I bought the 4000 kit from Group 5 motorsports here in San Diego for $200 which was a high and low beam set up. MY GOSH WHAT A DIFFERENCE. I would choose the HID's any day of the week and 2x on Sunday. They were easy to install and are some much nicer than any headlights I have run before. They were easy to wire in too.
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What's the difference between what RN is selling and an ebay kit.... besides price? They more or less look identical. Here's a kit on ebay for $88 with a 5-year warranty.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Xenon...ht_7314wt_1167
It looks like there is no high beam on that one.
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I just ordered H4 housings. I'm now trying to figure out what to put in them.

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My 2 sents:
1. Went with Hella H-4 headlight housing and ran PIAA superwhites with an auxilliary harness when I first purchased the rig in 06. Power for the harness was pulled off a the starter leed and the relay was activated by the normal headlights set up. Much better than stock.

2. As an upgrade I bought the 4000 kit from Group 5 motorsports here in San Diego for $200 which was a high and low beam set up. MY GOSH WHAT A DIFFERENCE. I would choose the HID's any day of the week and 2x on Sunday. They were easy to install and are some much nicer than any headlights I have run before. They were easy to wire in too.
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Ah. That's why its cheaper.

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It looks like there is no high beam on that one.
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Old October 11th, 2010, 01:11 AM
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I spoke to my electrical guy and he talked me into the HIDs. He said there is a lot of junk out there and that size matters when it comes to these kits. A lot of the cheap eBay kits have small converters or whatever they're called. The big "can" ones are the best. They are the same ones that goes into BMW's, etc
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What about an OEM Gelandewagen setup?
They use 7" Round headlights too.

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Wow, just looked a bit and they can easily fetch into the $1000 range for everything
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The best place the get HID kits hands down is DDM tuning. Used by most BMW enthusiasts, they have a lifetime bulb warranty on some of thier kits.

They offer a 55watt H4 hi/lo beam kit in any color temp for $65 bucks.

I had a set of the H7s in my E30 that lasted 2 years before a bulb went.

http://www.ddmtuning.com/products/101/




What offers the best pattern? Ecode or the standard H4s? Also where to find the Ecodes cheap?
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On a side note: At Mar I had the H4 glass and the PIAA bulbs got it so hot that when I did a creek crossing they cracked (the lights where on for about 3 hours...) The HID won't get anywhere near as hot as the HID.

I had that same problem at last year's MAR. Hot headlights and cold mud do not mix well.
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Old October 11th, 2010, 10:41 AM
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i have the e code hella's and have am tired of 2 things

1) the PIAA bulbs (100w, etc.) burn out pretty consistastantly even with the ARB relay harness in place. Hella bulbs in stock wattage do last somewhat longer but neither seems like a good solution
2) water ingress into the bulbs will crack them

To me the best solution is the trucklite LED headlights (some increased output as well) - and sealed LED Tail lights.
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I'm going to order that kit then. Thanks!

I ordered the Hella H4's but my electrical told me to return them and get the IPF's instead. He's really good so I trust his opinion from an electrical perspective.

Do I also needb HID harness, Error eliminator and adaptor cables? Which bulb color did you get?

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The best place the get HID kits hands down is DDM tuning. Used by most BMW enthusiasts, they have a lifetime bulb warranty on some of thier kits.

They offer a 55watt H4 hi/lo beam kit in any color temp for $65 bucks.

I had a set of the H7s in my E30 that lasted 2 years before a bulb went.

http://www.ddmtuning.com/products/101/




What offers the best pattern? Ecode or the standard H4s? Also where to find the Ecodes cheap?
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Keep in mind that HID bulbs in headlight housings made for Halogens are illegal in all states, not to mention very annoying to other drivers.
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