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Old October 14th, 2010, 03:04 PM
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Another option to consider, which I am in the process of doing:

From Daniel Stern Lighting:

Cibie H4 headlamps—7” round - H4 high/low beam, convex (domed) lens: $74.95/ea.
Regulatory compliance: ECE (European E-Code); SAE M
- (much better beam pattern than the Hellas mentioned earlier)

H4 70/65W Osram Plus 50: $22/ea

From DAP:
H4 Upgrade Harness: $100

End Price: ~$300.00

I've started with the H4 wiring harness. Once my headlights go out, the I'll drop the $200 for the lenses & lamps and be done.
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H4 Upgrade Harness: $100
Wow!
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The JW speaker lights are made in the US. No need to buy from Britain. Looks like they have dropped significantly in price as well. http://www.whelendirect.com/JW-Speak...Beam_Headlamps

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Option 3: JWspeaker LEDs, $2000 (price from Mobilcenter, anyone find a cheaper price?)
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Old October 14th, 2010, 07:37 PM
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The JW speaker lights are made in the US. No need to buy from Britain. Looks like they have dropped significantly in price as well. http://www.whelendirect.com/JW-Speak...Beam_Headlamps
That is much better. So.

Option 1: H4 upgrades. Hella or IPF ecode housings, quality H4 bulbs, relays and larger wiring. $130

Option 2: Truck-Lite LEDs, $600 (have really dropped in price!!)

Option 3: JWspeaker LEDs, $960

Option 3: Osram bi-xenon, $700

Option 4: Detroitspeed fully sealed housings with 9007 bulbs, wiring and relays. $250

I personally have Hellas and the light is very good, but they leak when I do this: http://www.youtube.com/user/1104kdd#p/u/3/1D8POUOpAc4 I think I'm going to try the Detroitspeed ones. The 9007 bulbs last 10 times as long as an H4 and are designed to be sealed.

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H4 Upgrade Harness: $100
What does that include? You need relays, you need bigger wires. Total cost should be around $20 to $30.

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- (much better beam pattern than the Hellas mentioned earlier)
Really, why do you think this?
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Old October 14th, 2010, 10:23 PM
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Thanks for listing the options. I have Hella Vision Plus headlights with replaceable HB2 type bulbs. What do you guys think of them? They are barely ok. Still not sure what to upgrade to but the list certainly helps.

Check out these work lights. I might swap out my rear Hella Work light for one of these: http://www.whelendirect.com/JW-Speak...KLAMP_New_item
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Going with 55/100W bulbs and reversing the dip switch so you get both on the locked setting will make the biggest difference to visibility. The stock high-lamp switch turns off the dip in the locked (forward) position so you lose the light you need to see animals waiting in the ditches about to run out in front of you. Swapping the two (the intermittent and locked position wires) fix this. The heat shouldn't be an issue unless you're doing night creek crossings and turning them down to low in advance would help with that.
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H4 Upgrade Harness: $100

What does that include? You need relays, you need bigger wires. Total cost should be around $20 to $30.


Comes with everything needed, relays, bigger wires, the stock wiring/switch plugs right in, except it is the power switch for the relay, which of course in turn powers the headlights. I was a moment of stupidy and desperation. I wanted to "save time" so I sprung for it. But in the end it wasn't as plug and play as I hoped, and ended up modifying it a little anyway.
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If you can wire it's not difficult and you can grab a 4-relay box at the same time and some horns and do it all at once.
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Right, and I found out the wiring was 12 gauge throughout. And the relays are the nice dual 87 terminal type.
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Thanks for listing the options. I have Hella Vision Plus headlights with replaceable HB2 type bulbs. What do you guys think of them? They are barely ok. Still not sure what to upgrade to but the list certainly helps.
Have you upgraded the wiring and put in relays? Did you get the ecode versions? The stock wiring is horrid and drains a lot of power. With stock lights, I measured 18% voltage loss on high beam. Went to 2% after modifying the wiring. They are as bright as any modern car with quality stock wattage bulbs and better with high wattage bulbs.
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I'm going to order the ARB H4 upgrade harness. I ordered the Hella H4's but I think I will return them. I think I'll either get IPF's with upgraded bulbs or LED headlights.

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Have you upgraded the wiring and put in relays? Did you get the ecode versions? The stock wiring is horrid and drains a lot of power. With stock lights, I measured 18% voltage loss on high beam. Went to 2% after modifying the wiring. They are as bright as any modern car with quality stock wattage bulbs and better with high wattage bulbs.
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IPFs will be the same as the Hellas. They are a very good light.
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