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Old February 15th, 2005, 05:03 PM
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Roofracks - yet another question

Greetings,

So I've been a rover owner for about a month now, and I'm already craving a roof rack.
Looking at what's shown in some pictures, I have this question:

Is there a roof rack that mounts to the front roll-cage of the NAS D90 SW with a sunroof (clearance), and at the rear, utilizes the ladder to maunt to the rear cross member. Basically, eliminating the need to drill holes in the body/body mount or rain -gutter mounts?

If not, and I was looking at modifying an existing roof rack to do this, which one would I start from?

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Old February 15th, 2005, 05:26 PM
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Actually The NAS Rack only mounts to the external roll cage in the front and to the tub in the rear. It also provides clearance for the sunroof as well. Unfortunately you will have to drill holes for the rear mounts and it has a price tag of about $2200 brand new.

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Old February 15th, 2005, 09:28 PM
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Hunt on the price - my best for a full rack was $1800 + shipping (about$225.00)
I gave up. When full racks show up on this site, the rarely do, they go fast. Really fast!
I have been loking for a full rack for 2 years - gave up. $$$ I'd pay $1000 for a full with ladders, but can not swing $2k. If you want some fun, type in a search on rack and see hat is up.

If you find something, send me a P.M. and I'll wake up again. Who knows, maybe 2 buys will lower the price or a custom build is in the air.
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Old February 15th, 2005, 10:04 PM
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It is possible to install the factory roof rack with out drilling the holes in the rear tub for the ladder/support. I fabricated my own supports that mount to the gutter. I will be happy to post a few photos. I will take a few this weekend and get them posted.

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Old February 15th, 2005, 10:55 PM
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I really dig the ARB roof rack on the 90. About the only thing I have seen I like made by ARB...(except lockers )
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Old February 15th, 2005, 11:49 PM
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I have a factory roof rack with one of the retaining bars that attach to the roll cage but not the second bar, and I DO NOT Have the ladder. I bought it used and it is not installed at the moment since I do not have a roll cage. I would consider selling it since I am going to weld onto it to add gutter mounts and I suppose I could do the same thing with an aftermarket rack--if some one is interested, they can PM me an offer or request pictures. I am in Colorado, and am not too motivated to ship. I was debating posting this among a bunch of other stuff I have to sell to come up with some cash for some house troubles, but if it waits for me to install it, that is fine too. Let me know if someone is intersted.
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Old February 16th, 2005, 01:01 AM
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Arbi, a flaw of the factory "Safari" roof rack design is in how the two front support hoops attach to the roll cage on either side. I'm not sure I can explain this well, but a flat flange is butt-welded to each end of the hoops' round tubing. This flange then bolts to a base which is attached to the roll-cage tubing. The flange itself is weak, and especially if the flange-base connection loosens, sets up bending which can fatigue and break the flange. This happened to me on all four of my flanges. I ended up buying replacements and welding triangular gussets to both sides of each hoop end (8 total).

Then I gave up altogether on the Safari rack, because taking it on and off to get my truck into the garage was just too much trouble....
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Old February 16th, 2005, 03:37 AM
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another option is the Safety Devices roof rack, they also make the LR Safari rack. The Safety Devices rack sits in the rain cutter and has an optional ladder which mounts to the rear member, not the body. I'm pretty sure no drilling is required. John Lee at expeditionexchange.com has one and is very happy with his. You can order one through him too if you decide to go that route.
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Old February 16th, 2005, 07:21 PM
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Thanks for the info guys,

Looks like the Safety Devicces roof rack uses rain gutters.
Trevor, thanks for the info on the mounts on the stock one breaking...
looks like I'll need to get one..and chop/weld a bit...


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Old February 16th, 2005, 07:41 PM
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what about the hannibal????? heard they are great, light, strong..

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Old February 16th, 2005, 07:42 PM
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george had some racks (roversdownsouth) they favor the SD at a fraction of the price those might be worth checking out
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Old February 16th, 2005, 07:54 PM
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Thanks for the heads-up guys.
I'll check them out.
The hannibal I think uses rain gutters. I'm trying to basically limit the attachment points to the front NAS rollcage and the rear cross-member; Basically, where I consider to be solid attachment points.

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Old February 16th, 2005, 08:21 PM
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I think the gutter feet come off of the hannibal, but I'd sure like to know for certain, since I would like to eventually mount one to the NAS ladder & crossbars.
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Old February 16th, 2005, 08:42 PM
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yes, the gutter feet come off a hannibal.
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Old February 16th, 2005, 08:52 PM
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sweet - thanks
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I think the gutter feet come off of the hannibal, but I'd sure like to know for certain, since I would like to eventually mount one to the NAS ladder & crossbars.
Jim, I'll have an alternative for you in another week or two regarding this. I'll keep you posted.
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Old February 17th, 2005, 10:19 AM
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Sweet, I appreciate it. I have a used ladder and bars that need repair, but the basket was beyond fixing (truck crushed by tree). I'm totally open to different options.
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