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Old March 5th, 2008, 08:03 PM
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Roll Cage help

My friend has a 95 defender pick up. Years ago it started its life as a NAS soft top, then Rovers North ended up changing things. It has a pick up hard top and rear bulkhead behind the seats. Anyway for summer he is thinking of removing the pick up cap for some open air driving. The only problem is the seat belts are mounted into the hardtop and the NAS roll cage now bolts into it as well. Any ideas on a good roll cage design for summer that would be removable, attach to the NAS front cage, and have seat belt attachments. We can fab it ourselves. Just looking for good ideas.

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Old March 5th, 2008, 10:06 PM
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I don't think that ever started life as an NAS Defender. But I could be wrong.

Just look at the gas cap location. Then you have the galvanized trim. And the tail lights, the bumperettes, mud flaps.

Anyway, I would say your best bet would be to add a B Pillar and the associated cage parts behind the seats. Although I am not positive, it may fit with the rear bulkhead.
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Old March 5th, 2008, 11:02 PM
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Post pics of the interior where the cage meets and the belts hook up. Since you are in LA I can get you a list of many good fab shops. Or if it is not time consuming, I can walk you through it.
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Old March 6th, 2008, 12:17 AM
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Thanks I will pot pics tomorrow from my work computer. Shocking enough that is an NAS defender. The vin is on the registry and everything. The owner of rover's north was the last owner. I am not sure how it went from a soft top to pick up but rovers north I am sure has access to the parts to make whatever they want. As for the gas tank it is still in the normal NAS place but the filler tube is longer going to the spot in front of the rear wheel. It is a neat little truck. It also has a custom badger soft top for the rear cab.
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Old March 6th, 2008, 12:23 AM
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There were a few of the early NAS d-90s that had dual fuel tanks as well, had the normal filler tank, and then one where that one is located.
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Old March 6th, 2008, 12:53 AM
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Really? I have 395 very close to yours and mine doesn't have that. I thought that was only something custom
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Old March 6th, 2008, 02:04 AM
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They probably had to use a different tub to make it a pickup...

Anyways you could swap the cage to something like this http://www.allwheeltrim.co.uk/Images...-truck-cab.jpg
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There were a few of the early NAS d-90s that had dual fuel tanks as well, had the normal filler tank, and then one where that one is located.
Ryan - you'd have to show it to me to prove it to me. There have been some excellent conversions done, and some crap ones (like adding a series filler) but I've never seen nor heard of a factory dual-tank NAS truck...
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Ryan - you'd have to show it to me to prove it to me. There have been some excellent conversions done, and some crap ones (like adding a series filler) but I've never seen nor heard of a factory dual-tank NAS truck...
DAP sold another '94 a few years ago that was advertised as having a "factory" dual tank setup. The fellow who owns it posts here once in a while. That was the first I had heard of it. The filler was in the same location as the truck here.
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Old March 6th, 2008, 09:29 AM
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Yeah, David is talking about the same one I am.. Here is the link to the posting, http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ead.php?t=8160 .. in that posting it just says "Land Rover Installed", but in another posting way back when, it said it was factory installed and had some more background on it.. I can't find that post yet though.
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Factory maybe, definitely not land rover. More likely the parking lot from the looks of it. There is of course something to the notion that at one time LR seemed to be willing to do anything for anyone for the right amount of money, but that certainly wouldnt have been LR work.
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Also, Ron Brown's old POE, which was #1729, had dual gas tanks.. but I'm not sure if that was factory or aftermarket as well..
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thanks for the pic. That is one insane cage. this would be ideal

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I own 1729, it has dual tanks, and the filler is a series hack-job.

Dual tanks are easy to do, its just a lot of work to do an external filler that looks like the back one. Even the euro trucks dont have a rounded top on the front filler. I've seen a couple trucks done very well, one of which was a 97 LE for sale at some point.

I've just never seen a factory dual-tank 90, but I'd love to!
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Old March 6th, 2008, 10:22 AM
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Ohh yeah, I forgot you had #1729 w/ you in Russia ... I had to look back in my old emails to find the pics of it..

Oh well, enough hijacking this thread, back to the scheduled programming of seat belts for a roll cage!
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Good idea, but I just dont understand what the problem is - get a NAS B-pillar and its job done.
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Will

thanks for the pic. That is one insane cage. this would be ideal

http://www.eastcoastrover.com/SP110.html
If you are thinking of having one made, I would seriously consider having a diagonal brace on that roll bar--the current design in that picture would have a very tough time not crumbling with a strong side force like you would generate in a roll. That said, I think this would be a very easy job for someone with a bender--just figure out a way to tie it to the chassis, which again, is not too difficult.
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Well if the truck started as a NAS st wouldn't it have the holes in the chassis already for where the roll cage use to be?
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Somewhere I have pictures of that truck not long after Mark converted it. Went by RN when I was in Burlington -- well worth the trip.
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Mine was the "hack job" with the series filler.
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