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Old June 5th, 2010, 12:26 PM
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Rockware bumper dillema

I can't believe I am saying this but need opinions. I have a D90 Rockware front bumper and love it. However I want to fit a Husky 8 winch and I have 3 problems doing so.

1. Even if I trim the front plastic grill and aluminum surround the winch is at least a half inch too deep at the motor and would hit my transmission cooler, which I would rather not relocate.

2. Because of the design the motor and gears take up a lot of space and even if I shifted it all the way to the passenger side the fairlead slot would be a few inches offset to the side and need extending.

3. The bolt holes don't match up (no biggie, but yet one more thing)

So, it appears I have 3 choices,

1. Don't use this winch. Maybe the most obvious but I like it

2. Buy/make a new front clip of the winch tray that I could cut the existing one off and weld the new one on. Picture cutting off the front vertical section of the tray about a 1/2' inward of the bend, and adding one that has an extra 2.5" on the horizontal lip, and the fairlead slot shifted over to the drivers side a few inches. Since my bumper is powdercoated I'll either have to get it redone or potentially look odd with a mix of powdercoat and paint.

3. Sell this and buy a new Rockware bumper with the right setup for the husky 8 - have an email into rockware to see what it will cost but they start at $850 now and I'd want a few extras I have now like HD recovery points and shackles and the brush bar and light bar with tabs so I expect it's going to add up.

So first, what would you guys do? #1 (sell the winch and buy another), try #2, or do #3?

Second, in case I go with the odd numbers, I may have a brand new husky 8 (several years old though), or a good condition rockware front bumper for sale, so I wouldn't mind opinions on their value

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Old June 5th, 2010, 12:41 PM
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Save yourself and your truck the trouble and get a different winch or swap bumpers. I wouldn't hack up your truck or the bumper just to accommodate a winch. Wait a minute, I did both of those to fit my Equipe and Superewinch!
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Old June 5th, 2010, 12:53 PM
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I would think a Rockware bumper would be an easy sell and you might even be able to get it sold locally. Like Wolf said it would be easier getting the proper bumper. Put a price on your own hourly fabrication rate and guess how long it would take to mod. Then add the cost to powder. You'd probably be close to the difference in cost to sell and then buy the right Rockware setup - it would be correct from the start and brand new to boot.
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Old June 5th, 2010, 12:55 PM
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X2 on Don's opinion
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Old June 5th, 2010, 01:28 PM
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Sell the RW and have Wolf build you a look a like... Personally, I like the SG bumper better and it is already built for the Husky.
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Old June 5th, 2010, 02:40 PM
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don't cut anything

I have to say that the last thing I would recomend is cutting your truck to make a winch fit. I find that every time I am considering a mod that requires major cosmetic changes ie cutting and grinding body panels etc. I sit back, take a deep breath and don't do it. And I have never regretted it. Buy a differet winch. That is the answer.
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If you really need that winch, sell the bumper and have Matt at RW make the proper one for that damn winch.. I'm sure you will get a good buck for it...
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Old June 5th, 2010, 06:18 PM
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IMO, the Husky is the best winch on the market!
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Yeah I love that (damn) thing, which is why I'm hesitant to just sell it and get something that fits my bumper. I guess we'll see how much it's going to cost for a new RW, and the differential between selling the old and buying the new will likely be the deciding factor. I'm expecting it will be a fair amount, but who knows.

But I don't *need* any of this crap. LOL. It's all about wants. I've gone 6 years without a winch and I'm sure I could go 6 more.

Oh and I agree about no cutting of the truck (I have ridiculed my friends for doing so), I was just explaining that even if I was ok with cutting, it still wouldn't fit!
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Old June 5th, 2010, 08:08 PM
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Overland Journal had a winch comparison in their 2009 Gear Issue. You might want to read that before you buy the Husky
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Old June 5th, 2010, 08:17 PM
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Well it's a bit late for me now as I already have the Husky (unless you are trying to deter someone from buying mine if I decide to sell it).

I'll have to dig out my 2009 gear issue and look as I don't recall the comparison.
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I took a look at the winch comparison (Husky 10). They didn't like the high amperage draw and line speed was that it? Well, first the Husky 8 gearing is different 229:1 vs. 294:1 so it should be a tad faster, but honestly I am fine with a slow line speed. If you are stuck and need to winch, I don't see any reason to be in a hurry. I think it's durability far outweighs the slow speed.

But I have yet to use it beyond testing on the bench so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

Oh, if it makes you feel better I own 2 winches in that comparison - a warn 8274. Yes after years and years with no winch, I'm stupid enough to buy two winches that don't fit my truck .
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I bought from a board member a used HS9500i (which should fit your rockware--I think) and would sort of like a husky (had one on a disco) so, well, you know, or I would buy your husky outright.

edit: Husky, even an 8500, is painfully slow, but like Charles says, that is ok
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Old June 6th, 2010, 04:12 PM
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Ok we'll talk once I see what the bumper swap is going to cost me.
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I have both the Husky 8K and the 8274 on the Cube and wouldn't change them.

If you want it so bad either modify the bumper or get a new one and sell the old (probably the best choice if you can afford).
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It's going to cost me $1400 to replace my bumper with the same thing but to fit the husky. Not sure it's a good plan, even if I got half that for my current one... Will need to think it over.
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Your current one fits the 9000, right?
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I believe so yes.
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Sell the rockware and buy a mantec.
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Old June 8th, 2010, 07:52 AM
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Nope, I heart the rockware.
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