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Old March 24th, 2010, 07:16 PM
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ring and pinion/lockers

Alright, I'm upgrading my drive train to 4.11 gears and HD half shafts and cv's. I have a friend that says that I should add the detroit truetrack in the front and detroit locker in the rear to make the axles stronger. I always thought that limited slips and lockers put more stress on the drivetrain. Am I right or is my friend?
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Old March 24th, 2010, 07:25 PM
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put's on more stress but you'll go more places... and when you've got it open it's a good time to upgrade...
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Old March 24th, 2010, 07:33 PM
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yes it would be a good time to upgrade, i'm just not sure if I need it. thanks for the quick reply harris
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Old March 24th, 2010, 07:35 PM
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If you're staying on the street you don't need the upgraded shafts either... if you're offroading it...you'll be wanting them and more...
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Old March 24th, 2010, 07:47 PM
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i have 35's and a 5 inch lift. I off-road in it but right now i don't want to off-road cause I don't want to spend the money on fixing broken shafts or cv's. i just want to upgrade the shafts and cv's to get some strength in there and put the 4.11 in to regain a little power and then later on down the road put in the lockers. i know that when i have it open for the ring and pinion it would be smart to put the locker and limited slip in then but i just don't want to spend the money on those right now.
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Old March 24th, 2010, 07:55 PM
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Yes, there is no extra install cost for lockers when doing RandP or at least there should not be much. Also, stock rover diffs are not strong and will break much easier than a TT or DL.
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Old March 24th, 2010, 07:59 PM
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so are you saying that the TT and DL would be a good idea to add strength with the size tires i'm running?
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Old March 24th, 2010, 08:01 PM
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so are you saying that the TT and DL would be a good idea to add strength with the size tires i'm running?
stronger diffs but more strain on your shafts and CVs
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Old March 24th, 2010, 08:04 PM
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you should consider the rovertracks toyota conversion.
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Old March 24th, 2010, 08:22 PM
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god i need to win the lottery, i'm a college student so saving up money for all this is ridiculous but it keeps me occupied. the toyota conversion would be awesome just need to save up some more money first
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Old March 24th, 2010, 08:28 PM
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there's a good suggestion... I'm running heavy duty GBR axles, CVs with a Detriot and TruTrack and I'd pitch it all for a toy conversion from Keith... pricing it's probably a better choice too...
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Old March 24th, 2010, 08:38 PM
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yeah i've heard nothing but great things about the toy conversions
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Got 4.11 gears, ARB's and RT shafts and CV's.. Running 35" tires with no problem. I would go with ARB's not the TT and DL.
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Got 4.11 gears, ARB's and RT shafts and CV's.. Running 35" tires with no problem. I would go with ARB's not the TT and DL.
Ditto... But, I have GBR in the back and CV Unlimited up front. ARB's are a better choice. I like the option of trying an obstacle unlocked and on skill alone, if that doesn't work, I can lock it up and walk over it.
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quite happy with my pegged 4.43 arbs from great basin. Perfect ratio for 35s on and off road.
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Got 4.11 gears, ARB's and RT shafts and CV's.. Running 35" tires with no problem. I would go with ARB's not the TT and DL.
Hey Randy - how has that setup been on the trail? I have a line on a 4.11 geared ARB rear diff and was planning on going w/ Keith's axle shafts when I install. For cost reasons I was just going to re-gear the front diff and leave it opened. Then swap the CV's at some point. Right now running 285/75-16 SSR's but thinking bigger rubber at some point (315/75-16 BFG's which seem to measure @ 34") Some of what I've been reading on here and Pirate it seems 35" tires = Toyo conversion.

As I've been planning the setup out, I was thinking what should be the weak point? Does it make sense to beef the R&P and axle shaft and keep the stock U-joints/prop shafts so they would give and not be too much of a PITA to swap on trail? Just some random thoughts...
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stock cv + 35s = ut oh
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Old March 25th, 2010, 05:36 PM
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ARB's would be great but a lot of money
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ARB's would be great but a lot of money
It is. For set up members front and rear pegged plus arbs and upgraded shafts and CVs, compressor, other needed goodies, expect to fork out over 5 grand. Even if you do it a bit at a time, Bill at Great Basin has offered me great customer service and advice anytime I need it. The setup and overall quality was great. He is worth giving a phone call to just to pick his brain.
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