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Old January 26th, 2006, 10:14 AM
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Right front wheel whine

when accelerating or decelerating I get a whine from the location of the right front wheel. It is only noticeable when the speed is above 45. I have changed all the hub fluids and such (the sound was there before), and it is still there so I thought I would ask what people think? It is a manual 95 SW.
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Old January 26th, 2006, 10:25 AM
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Is it definately the front wheel or is it the front differential thats whining. If its the wheel then possibly a wheel bearing
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Old January 26th, 2006, 10:52 AM
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I am pretty sure it is the wheel. I would think the if it was the diff, I would hear it more towards the center? Anyways, I will get my redneck buddy to hang off the front and listen for the sound.

Oh, if it is the wheel hub, how easy is it to inspect/repair it?

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Old January 26th, 2006, 10:53 AM
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When was the last time you replaced or repacked the front wheel bearings?
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Old January 26th, 2006, 10:57 AM
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I just bought it 6 months ago, so I am not sure when it was last done. Probably needs done as just about everything else did too.

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Old January 26th, 2006, 11:30 AM
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I'd pull that bearing right away, cheap and easy. If you wait it could be expensive and difficult. Any manual, haynes etc, shows you how to do it. Cheap even to have someone else do it.
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Old January 26th, 2006, 12:33 PM
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Yep, it is easy, but you do need to get the hub wrench to do it. Also, mine has some short lengths of hard brake line running to the caliper. If you are extremely careful you don't have to disconnect the brake line to get the caliper out of the way, but if you have one of those things to make bleeding brakes easy, I wouldn't risk busting that line..... just remove it.


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Old January 26th, 2006, 02:01 PM
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Great! I ordered the parts and they are on the way. I found some great articles online and I have the repair guides. As for the hub wrench, I assume you mean the 52mm wrench or socket?

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Old January 26th, 2006, 03:19 PM
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Yep, that's the one.

I've actually found the front knuckle area on my Defender to be MUCH easier to work on than the typical american 4x4 style with the pressed on brake rotors, locking hubs, and open knuckles.

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Old January 26th, 2006, 04:02 PM
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The only other thing it could be if the bearings look good is the CV joint.. but that makes more of a clicking sound. IF the bearings look good, dont put it back together just yet... I would then pull the spindle off. Only 6 bolts and check the cv for damage.
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Old February 23rd, 2006, 09:23 AM
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Just wondering if you got rid of that wheel whine?
I think I heard mine doing the same thing, intermittently...
Does it sound like a tea kettle boiling?

I just put a locker in the front, but I didn't take off the hubs to do it...
The wheels have no play (like one would if the bearing was bad).
I think I'm going to do it anyway.

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Forgot this...
Maybe it could be the fluid in the ball joint?
I have never changed it...
But I saw the fill hole plug when I did the front locker.
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Old February 23rd, 2006, 09:54 AM
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Actually, after pulling the hub member and inspecting all the bits inside, everything looked really good. So, I actually took mine to a local shop and had them look at it and turns out its not in the hub but the main gearbox. On a test drive, he popped the transfer case into neutral and the sound went away.(?)

Since I am the only one in the truck 99% of the time I am going over 50mph, it just sounds like it is coming from my right side I guess. They visually inspected everything and changed the fluids for me. There is normal wear and tear and my truck is nearing the 100k mark. The whine is still there but it is less.

I hear it as more of a metal whine, not as loud as a kettle but still there. Kind of like drilling metal almost, I guess.

Funny, I have owned the truck for 6 months now, and the last fluid I had to change was the tranny so I guess murphy strikes again. I even had the MTL in the truck... I would definitely drain and fill the swivel pin housings if you haven't done that.
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Old February 23rd, 2006, 10:03 AM
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I'm on that today!!!
Yeah, my noise doesn't stop when I pop it into neutral.
It stops when I stop motion.
Then picks up again sometimes at certain speeds.

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And my noise sounds like it is coming from the front left too.
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Old February 23rd, 2006, 10:06 AM
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Question William, the noise goes away when you put the tcase in neutral, how about when you push in the clutch?


Heath does it happen when you turn the wheels one way or the other? Speed make a differance or what gear you are in?
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Old February 23rd, 2006, 10:11 AM
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Speed yes. Gear, clutch, transfer -- no.
It happens on straight road or turning, maybe severe bumps (1-9) into Hoboken, can make it start or subside.
I thought is was a brake wear indicator on the front, but it wasn't.
Do I put 80w-90 in the swivel housing?
I hope it's just fluid/oil...
That would be a first!
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Old February 23rd, 2006, 10:20 AM
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Hmm, might want to make sure everything around there is good and tight, all the suspension componants and the steering stuff. You might also want to take a look at the engine mounts.
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Mike,
Duh, I didn't even think of that. Sure enough, if I am at speed and put the clutch in the whine stops.


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Old February 24th, 2006, 01:30 PM
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Hmmm Well then the sound is not nessicerily from the main gear box but it really still could be anything drive line related as it only makes noise when under load, when the mechanic pt the t-case in neutral all he did was unload everything, same as pushing in the clutch..

Really the best thing to try is driving with one drive shaft at a time to try and isolate the problem to either the front or rear axle, or the tranns / tcase. Once you have a direction to look in you can try and diagnose the problem.
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I suppose to run 1 driveline I need to drop the other? I replaced the front driveline's u-joints last week, but the sound persisted. The U's were pretty dirty and I think were the originals. I guess when I replace the rear I could drive it with the driveline off and see if it still makes the noise.

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Did you ever find out what this is? I have a similar issue.
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