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Old September 1st, 2014, 04:54 PM
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Retrim Kit comfort/support?

Hi there. I'm planning on redoing the seats in my 97 D90. My question is, is there a noticeable difference in the comfort and support with the new foam and lumbar support? I'm leaning towards the Exmoor kit. I'll mostly be on road with some off road excursions from time to time. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Old September 1st, 2014, 06:46 PM
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Hi there. I'm planning on redoing the seats in my 97 D90. My question is, is there a noticeable difference in the comfort and support with the new foam and lumbar support? I'm leaning towards the Exmoor kit. I'll mostly be on road with some off road excursions from time to time. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks, Virgil
Depends on how messed up your seats are today to how much of an improvement you'll experience. Oh and seat heaters are a good idea if you live somewhere that gets cold.
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Old September 1st, 2014, 09:31 PM
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They are the original seats, still in good shape, but kind of mushy feeling. I always feel like I'm slouching or something while driving. After driving for awhile the back starts hurting. All in all they seem to lack support.
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They are the original seats, still in good shape, but kind of mushy feeling. I always feel like I'm slouching or something while driving. After driving for awhile the back starts hurting. All in all they seem to lack support.
Buy some Recaros.

All the rest are cheaply made in comparison.
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Buy some Recaros.

All the rest are cheaply made in comparison.
Are there recaros available with removable seat bottoms?
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Old September 2nd, 2014, 12:25 AM
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Hi there. I'm planning on redoing the seats in my 97 D90. My question is, is there a noticeable difference in the comfort and support with the new foam and lumbar support? I'm leaning towards the Exmoor kit. I'll mostly be on road with some off road excursions from time to time. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Yes the foam used in exmoors kits is considerably firmer than the original foam was. The lumbar area of the foam in a retrimmed seat is much firmer
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The biggest improvement was replacing my seat base with an exmoor version. The vinyl did not match 100% but the comfort was so much better because it was firmer. I also added sheepskin covers so you can't tell what the seats look like.
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Old September 2nd, 2014, 07:03 AM
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You can also go with these guys. These have removable base as an option, but no land rover logo and are cheaper.

http://www.tunemydefender.com/interi...ed-seat-detail
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Old September 2nd, 2014, 01:26 PM
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Thanks for the input guys. The Recaros are nice, but a little pricey.
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Old September 2nd, 2014, 01:28 PM
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Get the lumbar kit. Its worth it! I got everything for my '97 front seats from Exmoor and I'm really happy with their materials.
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I've been looking at different seat options lately also, the problem I find is that if your truck is slightly lifted the side bolsters on the seat bases gets all messed up and can be a pain in the (you know where) sliding in over it..
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Point taken. I'd rather have a slight inconvenience getting in, then a sore back though.
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Just my 2 cents, having just redone my seating:
Buy the Exmoor seats complete. The only thing you are saving by doing them yourself is the frame. If you REALLY love your seat frames, then by all means redo the seats. However without derusting and repainting the frames you are just asking for it. It is about an hour's worth of labor plus dry time for the spray glue to install the foams and covers. You do run the risk of damaging the material, which will set you back in both money and time waiting for replacement cover (weeks, not days).
If you are not careful and experienced you may do a crap job of it. Then you have crappy looking seats with new covers.
You could have a shop do it but they will charge you labor that will get you right back in the neighborhood of new, so no real savings there either.
Anyway it is a fun project but knowing what I know now just not worth it. This coming from a die hard DIY person.
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Is roversnorth the preferred vendor for the retrim kits and seats?

My upholstery is in good condition however the foam is shot.
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Is roversnorth the preferred vendor for the retrim kits and seats?
To their credit, it does not seem to me that they are taking any significant markup on the Exmoor line. They handle shipment only as far as I can tell.
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I did my seats recently with the Exmoor kits from Rovers North and echo what others have said- to some degree.

The foam as Doug said, is considerably firmer and I find the support including the lumbar area to be excellent. In fact, I noticed I was sitting somewhat higher due to the lack of compression in the seat base which was a plus.

I found the installation process pretty simple and straightforward though somewhat fiddly at parts. Not complicated- it just takes some time and patience and I highly recommend watching the Exmoor installation videos on YouTube. They are really clear and made the job much easier (loved the tip to spray the foam with silicone spray to make the covers slip on easier.) And the end result, at least in my case, are seats that look like they are factory-fresh.

One bit of advice if you are planning to order through RN- make sure they have them in stock or are expecting a shipment soon. I ordered mine and never got a notification they were waiting for a container to arrive so it took me about 6-weeks to get them.

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I recently installed a set of very newish Exmoor elite seats bought from ECR with the lumbar air bladder and heated seats. Although I have not tested the heaters, the seats made an immediate improvement in comfort all around, making my very bouncy ride a lot better. The lumbar is also very nice.
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