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Old April 28th, 2005, 10:44 PM
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Repainting 95 AA Yellow to Arles Blue

Anyone have any comments or suggestions? How much is involved? How difficult is it to remove everything that needs to be primed and painted? Should I strip the yellow or paint over it?

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Old April 28th, 2005, 11:57 PM
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It might be easier to sell the yelow and buy a blue. You might even come out ahead.

Green is where it's at though!
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Old April 29th, 2005, 01:00 AM
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Yellow and red are the two worst paints to paint over because it is obvious when you get a scratch. I would strip it. I have a couple red panels that I painted over and to do again, I would strip them.
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Old April 29th, 2005, 02:35 AM
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Sell it. someone out there will pay very good money for an AA yellow LR. You've really got to strip the vehicle down completely to get the paint in all the right places. Think of the work just to get all the components off of the bulkhead (fire wall)and then sanding all those nooks and cranies.
It's got to be done to look right. just doing the outside won't cut it - you'll knock huge amounts off of it's value.
That's why my shit brown 90 is still that colour
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Old April 29th, 2005, 07:51 AM
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You should remove every panel and the associated trim to paint it completely - in and out. As to the bulkhead, well, that's your option but you'll be sick of seeing that yellow if you don't do that as well.

Now, to remove the old paint you can do it yourself easily, cost effectively (?) and completely using baking soda. Just blast it off. It leaves the metal perfect for primer. Forget sanding!

As long as you're removing so much you may as well take everything off and treat the frame.

In the end I would just sell it and buy another, although finding a blue one is tough. Did they make blue in 94-95???
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Old April 29th, 2005, 08:13 AM
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They did make the Arles blue in 94 because (that is what mine originally was).
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Old April 29th, 2005, 09:10 AM
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Mine is an Arles Blue 94 and I know of at least 2 others that I have seen in person.
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Old April 29th, 2005, 09:30 AM
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Why would you want to paint over a yellow one? I really wanted a AA 90 when I was shopping a few years ago but didn't want to pay what seemed to be a premium on them. I got Conniston Green instead which I almost painted G4 orange last year but to do it right took way to much work. If you're going to do it right you have to strip the truck all the way down to the bulkhead, don't just paint it over.
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Old April 29th, 2005, 09:30 AM
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Color change is a big no-go without complete disassembly. It will just look like total crap when done.
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Well that seems prety conclusive then!
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Old April 29th, 2005, 12:26 PM
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First thanks for all the feedback. I am repainting because I could not find a 95 Arles Blue ST. I believe in 95 they where only available as a SW. 97's - all auto. I thought about buying a blue SW but was advised not to try and convert it to a ST.....hard to find all the hardware to do it etc. So I bought the yellow with plans to paint it as an easier solution? Looks like I will be doing the complete disassembly. Arthur can you tell me more about the baking soda thing? I will post my progress on this project. Thanks again
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It's your truck and you can do whatever you want but I STRONGLY recommend against this. The Yellow is the most saught after model and the most valuable by at least a few G's. Sell it, and buy a white one that is 5 grand cheaper, take the 5 grand and get the best paint job on earth. It is truely a shame to ruin a yellow D. Its just my opinion, but in my mind, its like buying a Ferrari and putting a bumper on it from a 1978 Pacer wagon.
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Old April 29th, 2005, 01:00 PM
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It's your truck and you can do whatever you want but I STRONGLY recommend against this. The Yellow is the most saught after model and the most valuable by at least a few G's. Sell it, and buy a white one that is 5 grand cheaper, take the 5 grand and get the best paint job on earth. It is truely a shame to ruin a yellow D. Its just my opinion, but in my mind, its like buying a Ferrari and putting a bumper on it from a 1978 Pacer wagon.
Heck, I'll trade you my green one to do with as you please. Please don't destroy a yellow. There is a premium for yellow and Buck's suggestion is right on. That said, it's your truck to do with as you please. Good luck with the strip down if you do go that route.
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Why not Buy an Arles 94 and change the tail lights and marker lights like those on a 95? Other then the year thats the only real differance between the 2 as long as it has the the R380 tranns. I would think this would be by far the easiest way to go as it is very little work to change out the marker lights.
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Why not Buy an Arles 94 and change the tail lights and marker lights like those on a 95? Other then the year thats the only real differance between the 2 as long as it has the the R380 tranns. I would think this would be by far the easiest way to go as it is very little work to change out the marker lights.
The 95 has land rover printed on the steering wheel, door pockets, front door mechanism to keep the doors open, and rear tail gate lock. But wait, how would you know this stuff. Do you even know what door is
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Old April 29th, 2005, 02:31 PM
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I thought that stuff was all added by the dealer? And I know what a door is! I've been in your Defender!
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Old April 29th, 2005, 02:43 PM
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Adding to the chorus, changing colors is a bad idea. With any car, you can run into issues with things like insurance and title. With a cult vehicle having only 7000 (or so) counterparts in the US, you will take a hit in value. Given you already own the most valuable color, you will be diminishing value twofold.

From reading your posts, you will a) be doing a lot of this yourself and b) are not very experienced in this particular area. I can never understand why some sink $25k plus in a specialty vehicle and then shade-tree mechanic the thing. Who is really going to want to buy this later if you need to sell one day? Taking apart a vehicle should only be done with care, caution, and necessity, as they frequently never go back together the same when lacking real experience and using back yard tools and techniques. This may be fine for an old beater 4x4, but more than likely you will seriously regret it on your Defender.

You're not the same guy who wanted to drop in a chevy v-6 in place of the rover v-8 are you?
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I painted my truck and I had to break it down into slamm pieces. Unless you are planning an entire rebuild don't do it. IT will then turn into a can of worms and you will also have to replace tons of other crap. Like everyone elso says, look for a different color. Actually what is the difference. Its a D. they are all cool.
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Old April 30th, 2005, 04:01 AM
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Hunter, in the end it is YOUR truck and you can do whatever you wish with it. That being said, I wouldn't go for a new paint job. To do the job right would involve stripping the truck down to the frame. Perhaps a good option if you were doing a frame up restoration, but not a good option if you want to have it available to drive and enjoy. In the end it is your decision how much mony or time you are willing to invest.

I agree with Randy. Its a D. they are all cool.

Yousef: Is the front door mechanism meant to keep the door open? I thought that it was designed to shatter knee-caps and crush shins. Apparently mine is malfunctioning
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Old April 30th, 2005, 09:02 AM
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Hey Hunter,

I thought the last time we talked you had decided against painting it. It would be a shame to paint a truck that nice. But like we've discussed before it's your Defender . Hey, just so everybody else knows what we're talking about, this is Hunter's D-90....

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ead.php?t=4071


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