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Old January 1st, 2012, 09:38 PM
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Removing old Waxoyl

I have an "84 Defender and the frame has been waxoyled about four years ago just before I purchased it. I would like to have the waxoyl removed and then I plan to paint the entire frame with rust destroyer and topcoat with polyurethane machine paint. I want to have the waxoyl removed to reveal any hidden rust, etc. I painted the frame on my series lla and a boat trailer as detailed above and was very satisfied with the results. The only difference is that the series lla and trailer did not have waxoyl on them before I sanded and prepped them for painting. I DO NOT WANT TO DO THE WAXOYL REMOVAL MYSELF AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GO ABOUT IT FOR A LARGE AREA OR WHO I COULD GO TO IN ORDER TO HAVE IT REMOVED. I've removed the waxoyl in small areas for repair work. I used deglosser / degreaser, but it was a mess and I used a lot of scotchbrite pads, etc. I've heard you can have the waxoyl steamed off. I know Robison Service does Waxoyl application, but I don't know if they do removal.
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Old January 2nd, 2012, 08:49 AM
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Has anyone had old waxoyl removed? Experiences?
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Old January 2nd, 2012, 10:26 AM
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Yes and it sucks, if you look at my build thread I put my process in there.

Did I mention that it sucks
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Old January 2nd, 2012, 12:09 PM
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I will take a look at the build thread.
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 08:09 AM
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I have an "84 Defender and the frame has been waxoyled about four years ago just before I purchased it. I would like to have the waxoyl removed and then I plan to paint the entire frame with rust destroyer and topcoat with polyurethane machine paint. I want to have the waxoyl removed to reveal any hidden rust, etc. I painted the frame on my series lla and a boat trailer as detailed above and was very satisfied with the results. The only difference is that the series lla and trailer did not have waxoyl on them before I sanded and prepped them for painting. I DO NOT WANT TO DO THE WAXOYL REMOVAL MYSELF AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GO ABOUT IT FOR A LARGE AREA OR WHO I COULD GO TO IN ORDER TO HAVE IT REMOVED. I've removed the waxoyl in small areas for repair work. I used deglosser / degreaser, but it was a mess and I used a lot of scotchbrite pads, etc. I've heard you can have the waxoyl steamed off. I know Robison Service does Waxoyl application, but I don't know if they do removal.
You can try having it steamed at a place on Northern Blvd by the entrance to the BQE (I think it's just north of Jackson Heights). I used to have my DI cleaned there after going offroad. Don't know if the car wash is still there but it's worth a try.

Good luck and keep us posted.
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 09:04 AM
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im pretty sure any place with a hotwater/steam pressure washer can take care of it. Sometimes boatyard have these machines to wash scale and grease from the insides of ships
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 07:20 PM
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Thanks for the info. I'll give the Northern Blvd. locatiion a try.
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 07:44 PM
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The fact that it was waxoyled just before you purchased it seems interesting. It seems some sellers and many dealers try to "mask" the true condition of a chassis or bulkhead with it. I would be interested to see what you find under the waxoyl when it has been removed. A good seller instead of just applying before a sale would offer you a cleaner chassis to inspect and offer waxoyl after purchase.

Waxoyl does have its purpose but smearing it allover the underside of the truck is not ideal in my opinion
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 09:46 PM
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Let us know how it turns out if you go to the Northern Blvd place.
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Old January 5th, 2012, 03:32 PM
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I stripped waxoyl off my SIII frame using every degreser known to man. In hindsight I think steam is definately the way to go.
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I'm in dallas and there seems to be no steam options down here. I have used the Eastwood undercoat removal spray product with some success but....how about a heat gun? Has anyone used one?
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Do a search to see if anyone in your area does dry ice blasting, it would be ideal for is purpose.
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Or see if you can rent a steam cleaner/pressure washer locally. The steam units I've used (for cleaning wine making equipment) aren't terribly high pressure but that's more than made up for by the fact that they shoot steam
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So after 2 weekends under the truck scraping the undercoating off the frame, I threw in the towel. I took the truck today to a media blaster. After 3 hours and $300 later, the truck looks great and no real rust issues. A good rust incapsulator and eastwood chassis black and I should be good to go.
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So after 2 weekends under the truck scraping the undercoating off the frame, I threw in the towel. I took the truck today to a media blaster. After 3 hours and $300 later, the truck looks great and no real rust issues. A good rust incapsulator and eastwood chassis black and I should be good to go.
So any special precautions that must be taken? Or was it pretty straight forward for the guy?
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 03:04 AM
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no, just told him to stay away from fuel line and rear light wires. I probably got lucky on this. He used a baking powder type product which was not as harsh as sand. It looks strange to see the bottom of the truck without oil all over it.
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You should wax oil it to protect it
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 11:28 AM
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Just curious, why is everyone removing the waxoyl?
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 11:29 AM
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That is a great idea. If I buy another truck I will take that into consideration..... you never know what lies under the waxoyl....
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 11:36 AM
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So after 2 weekends under the truck scraping the undercoating off the frame, I threw in the towel. I took the truck today to a media blaster. After 3 hours and $300 later, the truck looks great and no real rust issues. A good rust incapsulator and eastwood chassis black and I should be good to go.


my god i wish blasting was that cheap around me
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