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Old May 14th, 2010, 12:28 PM
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Removal of Door Tops - Have Quick Nuts

So I've done a bunch of searching trying to figure out what may be going on here, but no luck.

http://www.defendersource.com/faq/Bo...oors.html#Tops

My door tops have the long quicknuts (some call them quick nuts or quickbolts / quick bolts) already installed to make removal of the tops much easier, and the PO said he's always used anti-sieze whenever re-installing the door tops.

I'm able to remove one of the quicknuts easily with my fingers, but the other one on the passenger door just spins when I use the wrench but never actually loosens. It shouldn't have seized in there because of the anti-sieze, plus at this point whatever I'm turning in there should have loosened up enough to come all the way out.

Any pointers or thoughts of what's going on? I have no idea what the inside of the door tops look like, so I'm having trouble picturing what's happening.
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Old May 14th, 2010, 12:36 PM
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The stud is spinning in the door top.
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Old May 14th, 2010, 12:44 PM
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If the stud is spinning in the door top you should be able to pry the quicknut downward (careful not to dent the door) and the stud should come with it. My guess is the stud unthreaded but is just being held by the seal at this point.

Conversely, try lifting the window now and the stud should stay. It can take some prying to get the seal to break free.
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Yeah, I've been trying to lift the window, but no luck so far...pretty well sealed up! I'll try to see if prying downward yields any results though. Thanks guys.
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Sitck a 3ft prybar between the door top and door bottom.
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I will be doing the same thing shortly
For this fun task I bought quick nuts, ss studs - to replace the probably rusted ones, rubber mallet, small pry bar, deep well metric sockets, pb blaster, WD40.

Maybe you should try the rubber mallet on the stud trick?
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Maybe you should try the rubber mallet on the stud trick?

Rubber mallet was the second thing I bought :-D

Going to give this a concerted effort once I get out of work today.

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Sitck a 3ft prybar between the door top and door bottom.
Kind of nervous I'll bend the cappings if I use a prybar, but I definitely need some leverage.

------ Follow up post added May 14th, 2010 02:53 PM ------

Gery, are you upgrading the studs as well?

http://www.gulfcoastrovers.com/custo...indow_stud.asp
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You might chip the paint, but the doortops will bend before the cappings.
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You won't bend the cappings. The best tool IMO is a small pry-bar. Use some cork or other material to pry against so you don't scratch stuff up. Using a mallet on the studs is a great way to accidentally dent the outside of the door. Some of the plastic furniture stripper knives work great for wedging under the seal. Once the seal is separated from the door the top will come off pretty easily, its amazing how much adhesive power they have when stuck.
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I would use a putty knife along the edge to make sure the seal isn't sticking. Then if prying I'd use a flat pry bar. It should not require *that* much force.
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This happened to me before I installed quick nuts. If I remember correctly the actual stud eventually completely unscrewed and dropped off. I'm a crazy? I thought it did. I thought I broke it but I think I ended up being able to just take channel locks and screw the stud back in the door top. After that I just keep a little never-seize on the quick nuts and don't screw them down too tightly.
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Yes it should just screw out. Once out you can put it in a vice, free the nut, then clean it up and re-thread into the top.

Josh I am guessing you just haven't unthreaded it enough (problem 1) and the the top is just stuck to the seal and you can rock it sideways slightly as well as pry gently to get it to release. I like Jim's idea of plastic putty knives to avoid scratching the paint.
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prybar on the inside (in case the paint chips) then rubber mallet. After the second time you do it, you'll never bother to take your door tops off again. A defender at 45 miles an hour with no windows is not something your girl will support.
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Girls are replaceable. Find one who likes to drive with the door tops off!
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Girls are replaceable. Find one who likes to drive with the door tops off!
Door tops suck. Tops suck. No top and no door tops is what a defender is supposed to be.

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Gery, are you upgrading the studs as well?
I got the quick nuts and studs from Eric at AB. Figured it was best to do both at once.
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I would put loctite on the threads into the door top and anti-sieze on the nuts.

BTW I am looking for a set of stock studs with the white sleeves intact if anyone wants to part ways with a set cheap.
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I would put loctite on the threads into the door top and anti-sieze on the nuts.

BTW I am looking for a set of stock studs with the white sleeves intact if anyone wants to part ways with a set cheap.
Ron, if mine aren't worn and rusty I'll send them to you. It might be a little while since I need to find the time to take off the top The sleeves are the plastic things that I've read about that sometimes get tossed out when removing, correct?
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They are white plastic. They should be rusted on the studs by now. I sand them down to fit properly in the holes.

Thanks in advance. BTW, you don't need to take off the top to take off the door tops.

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They are white plastic. They should be rusted on the studs by now. I sand them down to fit properly in the holes.

Thanks in advance. BTW, you don't need to take off the top to take off the door tops.

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That a hint I'll see if I can get around to it this weekend. My boat has "top" priorities right now.

Mines a Cali truck. Might get lucky with the studs and sleeves. Haven't taken off the door skins yet. Maybe one of the previous owners gold plated them (first owner was some "famous" Hollywood movie producer I've been told)
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