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Old March 12th, 2011, 09:37 AM
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remote winch throttle cable-suggestions & pics

Suggestions for remote idle speed control, safe...something that won't possibly jamb open or interfere with normal throttle operation…even thinking about a quick-disconnect for on/off road, though I wouldn’t be happy stuck at 2800 RPM, low range with about 1000’ drop to my left…
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Old March 12th, 2011, 10:51 AM
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EE used to sell a great Genuine Parts one but I can't find it on their site. I'll look around for one. It installed on the right side of the steering column.

------ Follow up post added March 12th, 2011 08:53 AM ------

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Sounds like you want a vernier throttle control:
http://www.eriksmilitarysurplus.com/thcoca10ftwi.html
Some have a button in the center that you push that releases it to return to idle. Not sure if the one above does.
My '62 has a factory hand throttle that is a lever you slide over that catches in notches.
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Old March 12th, 2011, 07:01 PM
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found parts--- from the dark side...

http://www.4x4xplor.com/handthrottle.html

looks like there are several hand throttle options out there...thanks

DIY- http://www.stu-offroad.com/engine/th...p_throttle.htm

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what about using an electric vacuum solenoid with a vacuum menbrane as those on japanese cars, the default is idle but if you wire the solenoid to a toggle switch all you have to do is flip a toggle switch.
upon installation you set the desired off idle rpm.
hooh up is simple, plug one end to vacuum the other to membrane vacuum is applied to membrane upon actuation of electrical solenoid.. all of thes can be found ala junkyard for a couple of buck.
the membrane could be a cruise control membrane with slack to desired rpm.
that way you know if you are in a rush you simply flip the toggle with pre set rpm and you dont run the risk to over rev the engine since default is idle.
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http://www.4x4xplor.com/handthrottle.html

looks like there are several hand throttle options out there...thanks

DIY- http://www.stu-offroad.com/engine/th...p_throttle.htm

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I actually picked up one of the Rubicon Express kits a few years back and was planning to install it on my '69 Bronco...the Bronco was sold before I installed it so now plan to try fitting it to the NAS. Plan is tackle this one in the next month or two and will let you know how it goes.
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Old March 14th, 2011, 11:39 AM
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I like the military rachet handle...looks a bit more stock...source for buying? I am thinking about mounting it on the lower dash, next to the steering column.
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Ive got a NOS military ratcheting T handle. It was used on alot of different trucks, an M38A1 being one of them.
Those work well. Had one on my deuce and when running the PTO winch it came in handy. A quick twist would let it move back to idle.
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what about using an electric vacuum solenoid with a vacuum menbrane as those on japanese cars, the default is idle but if you wire the solenoid to a toggle switch all you have to do is flip a toggle switch.
upon installation you set the desired off idle rpm.
hooh up is simple, plug one end to vacuum the other to membrane vacuum is applied to membrane upon actuation of electrical solenoid.. all of thes can be found ala junkyard for a couple of buck.
the membrane could be a cruise control membrane with slack to desired rpm.
that way you know if you are in a rush you simply flip the toggle with pre set rpm and you dont run the risk to over rev the engine since default is idle.
Carlos any existing one like this?
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I would use the "quandret" style one found on 2.5NA military trucks. It is similar in design to the series hand throttle but designed to work with a cable throttle body. It has a lever with notches to control the throttle. I have one somewhere in my attic as it came off a truck with a capstan PTO (no, I can't sell it, but I am sure you can find another one).

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I would use the "quandret" style one found on 2.5NA military trucks. It is similar in design to the series hand throttle but designed to work with a cable throttle body. It has a lever with notches to control the throttle. I have one somewhere in my attic as it came off a truck with a capstan PTO (no, I can't sell it, but I am sure you can find another one).

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I like Antichrist's vernier cable, but for OEM, this is the V8 cable: Cable

And this is the bracket that goes under the dash Bracket

There's also a cover for the interior bracket, a firewall grommet, and a bracket that connects the cable to the throttle linkage on the engine. I'm too lazy to look up part numbers, but it's all in the RAVE.

This original cable will release when you step on the go pedal. I have the equivalent diesel version in my 110. Actually I've not yet figured out what the difference is, even though there are different part numbers. Might just be the length of the cable sleeve, since the diesel one has a short run to the IP.
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thanks...great help. I'll post pictures when/if I get it installed.
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http://www.xtremeterrain.com/throttl...-71jeepcj.aspx

found some round Knob in black...problem may be the 36" lenght cable, but I think I can modify..
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